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What is the best Mascara and Eyeliner brand to use?

what mascara and eyeliner work best for you? Preferably one that doesn't smudge and doesn't get messy when trying to remove. thanks

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Instead of eyeliner, because it runs, use a really dark eyeshadow, a good black, and a then an eye make up brush. Get the tips of the brush wet but not to wet and then run the wet tips through the eyeshadow and it will make great eyeliner that lasts all day. Just apply like regular eye liner :)

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Cover girl or maybelline are great for mascara as eyeliner I use elf or rimmel London. Both are great and don't smudge and aren't messy when being taken off.

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A brand called Neutrogena offers great mascara and eyeliner. Also this brand is recommended by Dermatologist or try maybe line New York mascara and eyeliner. I use both.

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Ok, I'm in love with maybelline's full n' soft mascara--super easy to apply and great results (plus its only like, $4), and elf's liquid eyeliner. I use Maybelline's masterDrama eyeliner for lining my waterline though, and that's pretty smudge proof and not difficult to remove.

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