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I have full custody of my son. ( 14 yrs old ). Is it illegal for his grandparents to take him out of the country without my permission ?

is it illegal fir a cruise line to allow grandparents to take my minor son out of the country without my permission or even knowledge?

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Grandparents cannot do anything with your minor child without your consent. But these grandparents want to do things with your son. I can't imagine how this happened. Better communication all around is required. If you over-react, your son may respond in a negative way. To reduce your worry, and for there to be more respect, everyone must have the same information. No more sneakiness. They must ask your permission in future.

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This is crazy!
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I agree ! Total insanity !
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Hereto stay, I've read your other questions and you are in trouble. Pack up and move with your son and don't tell anybody where you are.
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Obviously the Grandparents had access to his Birth Certificate and/or Passport, else they would not have been able to take him. So seems a real lack of communication& understanding.. strange...
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If you check the profile, there seem to be a lot of "fishy" things going on?
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I think she is in big trouble. If I was in her shoes, I would move to New Zealand.
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Yup!! Good idea Taise!!
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It is indeed against the law for the grandparents to take the kid anywhere without your permission. It is not, however, illegal for the cruise liner to allow them onboard; the custody is none of the cruise liner's business, plus they wouldn't even know about it.

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To avoid liability the cruise liner requires that the child travel with their parent or with the permission of their parent. Since they travel across states or across countries, it would otherwise be a way for a kidnapper or fugitive to run from the law. A signed affidavit is required for a noncustodial adult to take a child on a cruise whether it's a grandchild, stepchild, friend of your child, etc.
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so there was likely forgery here.
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Assuming the cruise liner followed protocol, very possible. If they have the same last name it's possible someone just assumed they were his parents, but usually they check in some way or other.
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This is terrible
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Sure, I don't know how they even managed to do it.
At a basic level,your son wouldn't have mentioned it?

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Morning, Bubb !
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Good morning both.
To leave the country, the boy would have packed and needed his passport. How could this happen?
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I'm waiting to see if she answers any of these comments !
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Hi guys, there's more to this story.
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Bubb, you're right ! Something's fishy !
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Oh yeah... big time fishy!!
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Yes, it sure is ! They can't just take your son out of the country without telling you ! Are they your Ex'es parents? I can't see why they didn't ask or at least tell you about it. I would be furious over it. Whether you decide to take legal action or not is up to you. At least let the boy have fun and then deal with the Grandparents when they get home. I would find out all my legal rights and be ready for when they get home. How far you want to push it, is up to you. It is illegal! Good Luck !

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How did they even manage to pull this off??
You can't even return something at the mall without being fingerprinted and ID'd. : )
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I know ! They could be arrested ! I would like to know if this is her ex-husbands parents and I bet it is ! So wrong !
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Hmmm
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Sounds like the son is being torn in two ? Wouldn't she have seen him pack and leave ?
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Ya'll notice...no comments back? Fishy allright....
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Also, profile.. more "fishy" stuff...this person's got privacy/control problems!!
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It is 100% illegal for anyone who does not have custody of a child to take them ANYWHERE without the consent of the person who does have custody of that child.

Cruise liners require paperwork for a child to travel with someone that is not a parent. They even require paperwork if they ARE travelling with a parent but they have a different name.

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If the Grandparents had the Passport, that requirement may have been overlooked or waived....
Big Q is... how come Grands have the kids important I.D., if this relationship IS in fact so fractured? And how could the parent NOT know any of this beforehand?
Whole sounds weird.....
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It does sound really strange. They may be able to go on the cruise without a passport and simply not be allowed to disembark in other countries. But if I were the parent I'd have police waiting for that cruise to come back. That's MY question - kid disappears, no communication, and the parent doesn't call the police?!
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Quester, if you check the Q's in the profile of the questioner, there's obviously lots more going on...
Strange is the word...
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I see them... that really is strange :-/ I don't know whether to feel bad for them or tell them they need to buck up and take back control.
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Good question Quester.....
Seems like a big mess!
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Why in the world would a loving adult that was a guardian endanger a child's life like that? Technically, they cannot authorize emergency treatment, if he were injured. My parents always made sure they had my kids' insurance cards and a letter authorizing emergency treatment signed by me before they ever took my kid further than about an hour away.

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Yes! But how did they do it if you have full custody???

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