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What is the Salvation Army’s position on gay youth, openly participating in scouting?

The Salvation Army is my primary charity of choice and I understand that they are a big supporter of the Boy Scouts of America. For some reason, they will not answer this question for me. It is important for me to know this before I continue my support. Does anyone know or have a link?

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As far as individual people/locations their views probably vary, but over all they are not a very LGBT friendly organization at all.... http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2012/12/the-salvation-army-doesnt-ring-the-gay-bell/

Not sure about their stance on the Boy Scouts, but my guess would be that they would be opposed to gays in scouting as well.

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Their refusal to answer your question speaks volumes. They, like the BSA, are homophobic. You better find another prime charity, Buttercup. Supporting homophobia is pretty in-Christian.

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It really is un-Christian, isn't it? Not that I care about their religious beliefs but I am concerned about a choice to discriminate. Thank you for your input.
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Let me ask you a question youve got gay scouts and straight scouts and your goin on a campout every scout has to have at least two scouts together at all times including in a tent how do you split these boys up when you set up camp
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wildcatfan - the same way you normally would. Just because they are gay doesn't mean they are suddenly going to act inappropriately at boy scout camp. It's not like they are going to spend camp time hitting on guys. For one they keep you very busy with activities, and you are generally too tired to do much else but sleep by the time you get back to your tents, and also - these kids are there because they want to learn and have fun, they aren't going to do anything that will get them kicked out, or potentially risk losing badges or anything.
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But you cant put a gay boy with a straight boy or another gay boy because thats like putting a boy and a girl in the same tent which the bsa doesnt allow. And dont say well just because theyre gay it doesnt make them attracted to that certain boy hes buddied with its that there is a possibility just as with a boy and a girl doesnt mean it will happen but its always a possibility
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And off topic your very tired when you get back to your campsite theyre so focused on saftey that theres not too much to make you tired
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Are you telling me that a heterosexual guy and girl couldn't share a tent without wanting to rip each other's clothes off? The argument presupposes that people don't know how to control their own sexual urges around others.

I went to girl scout camp quite often as a child... don't know what the boys do, but us girls kept pretty busy and we just slept at night. Really this is a total non-issue,
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No thats my point you cant put a teenage boy and a teenage girl in the same tent together not because they will but because they could its the same with gay and straight boys and two gay boys its not that somthing will its that something could
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Let me ask you would you wnt your teenage daughter sleeping in a tent with a teeage boy all by themselves
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I would 100% trust my son to sleep in a tent with a girl if it was necessary... because I know how he was raised, and I trust him.
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What ifit was your daughter
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If it
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And just because you trust your kid do you trust the other 15 or 16 year old of the oppisite sex thats in there with your kid
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If I raised a daughter the same way, then yes I would trust her. And knowing what I do of my son, it wouldn't matter what the other person was like - if there was an issue, he'd not have any problem telling her "no", or if necessary taking it to a parent or whoever else was chaperoning.
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Its not somthing will its that somthing could. Lets say for instance someone does try somthing who is liable not the kid or the parents of the kid its the people that donate their time to be there
Plus this decision has lost tons of troops their charters
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I think everyone is forgetting the obvious. Our children, gay and straight, spend countless hours alone together. Those that conduct themselves properly will continue to do so, those that don't, won't. Being gay or straight doesn't change that. I think there is confusion. Just because someone is gay, does not mean they want a relationship with your child. I have slept in many tents in my life time time without making wrong choices. If you feel that your child would be tempted by a gay friend in their tent then you may want to ask him or her to come out.
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Like ive said its not that they would its that they could
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lynn- Exactly!!
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I think they have bigger things to worry about

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Bigger than donations????
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No, than what gay people do.
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They way they view "what gay people do" has tremendous impact on who donates. The two are not separate.
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The Salvation Army is a religious organization in and of itself.

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/0/816DE20E46B88B2685257435005070FA?Opendocument

I'd say they are against gays being in the BSA since they founded a similar organization in 1980, The Adventure Corps

http://www1.usw.salvationarmy.org/usw/www_usw_delorodiv.nsf/vw-sublinks/2E59FAFAD9F66875882579C000254FBE?openDocument

However, I was not able to find anything definitive online which emphatically states their position.

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I found nothing online either. They should at least have the conviction to stand proud and announce a position when asked. What has happened to this organization? I will find a new charity that values the needs of all Americans. But I do feel foolish for having supported them for so long. We live and learn.
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I understand. Until the last 10 years or so, I thought they were just a charitable organization.
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They will not make a public stance in this issue because it would decrease their donations and support.
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Seriously? Why do they need to?
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Because people want to know the values, actions and decisions made by the organizations that they support with their dollars. And more importantly, those groups that they discriminate against. All I wanted was for the Salvation Army to state their position. Why won't they do that? Seems cowardly to me. Not the image I once held for this organization.
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Salvation Army will accept donations from gays. But they will provide no services or support for gays. And they are opposed to the inclusion of gays in Scouts. In their version of "Christianity" they worry more about punishment than salvation.

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It's a shame. I wonder how much good all of my donations could have done for any other organization. I wonder if they would give it back. I should ask them for it back...on principle.
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I wouldn't think they like it

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They just like the bsa are a religous organazation so i say they dont support gays actually the bsa has lost tons of funding and tons of their charters for allowing gay scouts

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Just for the record: Many religious organizations do not shun gays. Religion does not always equal bigotry and exclusion. I would question those that do.
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Theres a fine line between tolerence and acceptance just because you tolerate it that doesnt mean you have to accept it
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No one is asking for acceptance. Gay people really don't care if they are accepted or not. They just want equality. The same rights and privileges that all Americans enjoy. Religion is a personal choice. Not to be confused with the law of the land.
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Well the church is not going to recognize gay marriage because that is acceptance not tolerance they will tolerate but not accept
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What church? Are you of the belief that there is only one church? Many churches recognize gay marriage. Long standing, well respected, thriving churches. Whether or not YOU "accept" them, is irrelevant.
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