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So im catholic and i grew up being taught God made you who you are and I believe in gay rights. But i have seen people say there is a verse in the bible that says you cant be gay. I dont really understand this. And besides religion are there reasons people dont believe in gay rights?

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Some people expect everyone to be perfect.They expect us all to be cookie cutter material.Obviously we aren't so just ignore them.That is there personal opinion.

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That is funny, me and my family were talking about it today. People think it is wrong because God made people to produce offspring. And people think it is wrong that you aren't following the right thing by being Gay, Lesbian, Bi. I believe that God wants you to be accepting of other people, so i believe that it's ok whatever you are becasue God loves everyone. I hope i helped(:

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God can love everybody, but that doesn't mean he's satisfied with Inez's decision. He loves them, but he's not happy with them sinning.
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Yes, @40dawg, i see what you are saying. He loves everyone, but he doesn't like when people sin. But i was just sharing my belief :)
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I don't agree it is absolutely RIGHT, but i don't judge them. Live and let live.
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It is NOT sinning. Theres also a verse in the bible about love. Actully over 500. It says all love is ok. Love is what love is and that cant be changed.
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Read Leviticus 18:22 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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I myself support it to be honest. That is my opinion, but it is not "Right" in some people's eyes. U know?
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i just dont like the gay rights stuff and never will. i dont believe they should get married or any of that.

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Why? And if you had a kid who you loved so much, and they told you they were gay would you love them any less? Whats wrong with gay ppl?
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yeah. And its a sinful and just plain twisted
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Why do you think that?
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@skittles: oh, I was talking to JCpanther...
no, you shouldn't love your kid any less, but you don't have to agree with their sin, or support it. Love the person, hate the sin. God didn't make us that way, he made man and woman for each other. If someone has a problem with having homosexual feelings and desires, they can pray to him and he will help them to handle it and get over those feelings so that they can have healthy relationships. He loves them just as much, he just doesn't like what they are doing, because that is not what they were made for
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I would still love them, but I would definitely see them differently. But my reason just isn't because it's a sin it's I just I don't like it.
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People are often against change, and things that are different. So two men/women engaging in the act of marriage or sex is seen as different, which is obviously understandable since heterosexuality is the most common form of sexuality. So people don't like or believe in gay rights.

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Listen Baptist people HATE gays and Lesbians, I'm non denominational so I don't care if your Baptist or catholic(no offense I'm just not racist at all). I don't know if there's a verse in the bible stating that you CAN'T be gay.
But hey, it says in the bible that God died on the cross for YOUR sins, and if you're gay or Lesbian, well he HAS to forgive you for your sins.
For all I care I'm TOTALLY supporting Gay and Lesbian rights.
I'm not gay or lesbian or bisexual myself but I think it's a personal byist.
I don't mean to go against God or anything, but he can't technachly control our lives right? We all have minds of our own and we all can decide whether to support gays and lesbians or not.
I MYSELF personally support it.
you decide whether to be with or against Gay and Lesbian rights.

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Besides religion? Intolerance and fear, plain and simple. Religions tend to have an unhealthy fascination with our bedrooms..

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In the end. God will say I didn't set up religion.
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There's is a verse in the Bible that prohibits homosexuality. ;) It says in Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination (KJV)." The Bible began with Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve. For nonreligious reasons, many simply think it's nasty, perverted, and just plain wrong.

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But isnt God suppose to accept you for who you are and what he made you? How is love a sin?
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I'm all for sustainability. Which is why I think everyone should keep Leviticus right next to their toilets in case they run out of TP.
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40, yr correct.
Skittlz, men and women were created to procreate. Regardless, gays are NOT born that way. They have to choose to do right or wrong.
In addition to saying homosexuality is a sin (not a lifestyle), sleeping with someone yr not married to is a sin also. People can love each othrr and not have sex. Either way it's wrong. Even if it's popular.
Did any of you 'youngsters' realize that when AIDS first appeared on the scene, around 1980, it affected mainly the gay population first? Not till later did it really start to affect others (except for people who had received blood). I wouldn't go so far as to say that was God's judgement (although many did), but it sure could be why He told us not to do it in the first place. We just don't know...
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@MarSch: Some information about AIDS: It may seem to you if you were living in the U.S. in the 1980s that AIDS "appeared on the scene" at that time. But that is just being myopic. The virus that causes AIDS, the HIV virus we are familiar with today, has been on the scene since the early 20th century, and possibly the late 19th century as traditional African societies began to change as a wave of western business interests began to take root on the African continent. The virus had been around for many thousands of years, but it appears the this disruption in African culture somehow caused a zoonosis (transfer of the virus from certain types of apes to humans) with an additional mutation. The effects of this virus transfer were across both genders.

However, in the 1980s there was an epidemic breakout in the U.S. which had its origin in Africa. It occurred primarily amongst homosexuals because the carrier(s) were most likely homosexual, and did not readily spread beyond that demographic for the reason that the homosexual community is a tightly closed community. The bottom line is that AIDS was not, and certainly is not today, a disease related to sexual orientation.
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@40dawg: Regarding your comment about Leviticus 18:22, please see my comment under roosevelt77's answer.
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Thanks for the info, Cal.
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there is a verse in the bible that says gossiping is a sin too, but i don't see a big movement addressing this, nor have i heard a sermon on it for many years! gossip can destroy a person. God loves us as we are; not the way we ain't...;-)

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Ditto!
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.YES great answer
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thanks...;-)
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Just eat your purple skittles.
The bible was written in full context to a certain people at a period of time to ensure the survival of our race. Randomly pulling verses out of context is religious fanaticism.
Like the crusades, genocide, nazism, Al Qaeda, IRA, and many religious zealots who think they have a GOD in their pocket. Time to get real.

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But im out of purple skittles.
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Well said, Bella!
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Here's a virtual buck. Go get some! and keep smiling
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God didn't make anyone gay. Just like he didn't make disease, death, etc. It is the result of our sinful nature that happened when Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden. Things became twisted and bad after that. He didn't make sin, he didn't make us to murder each other, hate each other, put each other down, steal, rape, molest children, or have any relationship other sexual relationship other than between a man and a woman. "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good" (Genesis 1:31)

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold [back] the truth in unrighteousness... Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves... For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which is meet."
(Romans 1:18, 24)

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The Bible CLEARLY state that homosexuality is sinful.
Homosexuality is a sin, just like any other sin. Sometimes a person might have unnatural feelings they wished they didn't have, and that they can't control. They can't help that. But they CAN control their actions. And if they pray to God for help, he will help them to overcome those unnatural feelings and be the person he made them to be. No matter what they do, God will still love them just as much, but he does not always love what they do. But if they repent, he will always forgive and forget. As Christians, we are called to love the person, but to hate the sin.
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Please tell me if you met someone or had a child you loved more than anything in the world, and they told you that they were gay, would you still love them? And guess what? GOD DID NOT WRITE THE BIBLE.
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You "love" the person, even though you just called gay people TWISTED on a comment. That's not hypocritical or anything, is it?
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EXACTLY :l
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Theres also many verses about love that say love is what love is. All love is ok. Over 700 verses say that btw.
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I prefer black and yellow skittles...
Oh no! Black and yellow, Black and yellow, Black and yellow, Black and yellow!
http://youtu.be/VhCpcdb_kig
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@Haimai: look at my comment again. I didn't call gay people twisted, I called the sin twisted. No that's not hypocritical. You are to love the person, but that doesn't make the sin right
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@skittlez: no, you would love your child just as much. As I have already said about three times, love the person, hate the sin. And God did not literally "write" the Bible, but he inspired the authors, gave them visions, etc. to write it. I is God's word. He as good as wrote it.
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love is good! God is love. You can love others, regardless or sex. But there is a sacred kind of love that is meant to be between a man and a woman, ad only a man and a woman. And that should not be between two men, or two woman. That boundary should not be crossed
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*and, not "ad"
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Ya'll are confusing "love" with "love=sex"
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yes, exactly
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Religious discussions are fruitless. The zealots will do what they can to prove they have God in a little box that they carry. When all along it was the religious leaders that crucified Christ.
Pass the skittles please.
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I'll take some. Pass them my way.
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I'm not a zealot. Wish I was. I'm just an ordinary everyday person who happens to love God, and feels like there has to be a standard for right and wrong - which the Bible provides. If it feels good, do it, is NOT what God says. I stumble all the time, and I thanks God that He forgives if we ask Jesus in our hearts, but He will NOT be mocked. He created us. He made the rules. And We're supposed to try the best we can to follow them (knowing we won't be perfect, of course, but just try to head in that direction).
Before I "found" God, I felt that way - do whatever as long as you don't hurt anyone. But I later, after meeting Jesus, realized that I was acting as if I knew better than God what was good for me and what was NOT good for me. And there are eternal consequences for opposing God. There are also current consequences too, like AIDS, Syphillus, Herpes, Alcoholism, all that stuff. I also learned that if I did whatever I wanted, I would always go downhill, and then have to account to God for it. No way!
God LOVES me enough to die for me. He pours out His love on me all the time. He guides me and helps me and comforts me. I no longer think I could even survive without Him - life is hard enough for some even WITH Him...
So, those are my thoughts, from a person who "knows" God, but is not a Zealot fanatic... You know why there's so many verses about "love"? Because most of us don't have any idea what it REALLY means, and confuse it with lust, and emotions.
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@marsch: well said. Totally agree, especially with that last part
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Maybe we are confusing love and sex. But love leads to sex (if you arent drunk...) and the bible says ALL love is ok, there are some verses that say if you love the person sex is ok. So if a boy loves that person in the same way then sex is ok. You are getting me angry, randomperson.
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You are realy bashing on mai skittles....
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Love does not always lead to sex! That's just it, that kind of love is for marriage between a man and a woman. What about the love a mother has for her child, or siblings have for eachother, or the love that friends share? And no, it doesn't say "if you love the person sex is ok" it says that that is between a MARRIED couple, and it is continually warning against adultery, fornication, prostitution, lust, incest, and HOMOSEXUALITY. If you still don't believe this, than you are choosing not to believe what God says in the Bible.
...And Im sorry that I'm making you mad lol, but you did ask!
This does NOT mean that homosexuals are horrible evil people by any means! all though I guess we are all evil to a certain point. None of us are any 'better' than any one else! we are ALL sinners, and no sin is better or worse than any other sin.
"For alll have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23
I am simply telling you that the Bible DOES indeed tell us that it is a sin and should not go on. pls don't be mad!!!
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Going to buy more skittles.
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No, I've had some gay friends, wonderful people, but I still disagree about their "lifestyle", because God says don't do it.

The statement "love always leads to sex" is a lousy standard to set for yourself... And heads for trouble in so many ways, because the sex urge sometimes get very confused with the love in your heart.

When the bible says all love is good - it is NOT saying the same thing as all sex is good! You're just making excuses to do whatever you want to do.

Listen - I really do understand where you're coming from. I was right there when I was in my 20's - "after all it doesn't hurt anyone". It's so much more common even nowadays. But the One who created you and loves you says it's not right to throw that part of yourself all around, but to save it for the one you'll spend your life with. And He's the one who not only makes the rules - He's the one who sees the end from the beginning, and He knows where it most likely will lead us... So He knows what's best.

You're mad because it doesn't agree with what you want to do. I get it, I would be too, if I hadn't learned what I know. I'm sorry you're angry - one day I hope you'll see...
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By the way, I don't always LIKES the things God tells us to do or not to do. Some things I just HATE not being able to do them - but I've learned that God knows where it'll take me - so I try to stay on His path rather than wander off, at least as much as I'm able...
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Virtually all objections to homosexuality come from a religious foundation. Even those opponents who say they are not religious grew up in a culture which is permeated with religious mores which do not support acceptance of homosexual behaviors. Members of such a culture are indoctrinated with that message from day one, and at every step on their journey to maturation. Just look at where the funding comes from for promoting anti-homosexual legislation. It is religious institutions.

To test this theory of cultural bias, observe pre-Columbian Native American's attitudes toward homosexuals. There was no such cultural stigma attached to homosexuals who were instead considered to have special powers or knowledge, and were referred to as "two-spirit people".

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Cal, there still is no stigma associated with homosexuality in Amer-Indian populations in most of South America, the churches came.. taught their forms of religions, killed off over 80% of the populations, and still expected them to conform to their religious dogma. The Indians got smart.. let them build churches and schools, bring all the aid they want, they'll go and sit in the church on sunday, and continue to live the life they want.
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Read carefully, 2 Corinthians 6:9-10 - What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10?nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.

........What do you think is meant by " ..nor men kept for unnatural purposes.......nor men who lie with men......"

The Bible is clear as to the conduct that God disapprove of and what will keep one from entering into his rest.

Leviticus 18:22 -You must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing."

Romans 1:26,27 -“God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene.

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I noticed you mentioned Leviticus 18:22 rather than Leviticus 20:13 where, along with adultery, the death penalty is proscribed according to Mosaic Law. Jesus specifically changed some Mosaic Laws (some insignificantly and some significantly) so we know he did not intend to entirely end all Mosaic laws, although he did abrogate some of them. But as to homosexuality Jesus is silent. Some interpret this to mean he didn't think homosexuality was an important issue -- and that may be -- but to me his silence is tacit approval of keeping in place the law calling for practicing homosexuals to be executed. Into which group do you fall?
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Leviticus 18:22 KJV
[22] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
And I'm sure there are more.

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It says people shouldn't be gay. It also says men can have multiple wives and if a man even looks at a woman on her period they could both be stoned to death. So yah.

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And gossiping is a sin...
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Sin? huh.. horrible? Yesss!!
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Homosexuality is a sin;
accepting it as acceptable behavior is of mans doing and NOT from God.

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