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Yes...and syntax, semantics, spelling, and morphology. The more these features of a language fall by the wayside, the less clear our communication becomes. Words are a fundamentally flawed means of expressing thoughts, but they are still the best thing we have. When people just throw language together without a thought about the clarity of what they are saying, it is very frustrating. They think they were very clear, because the thought they had was clear, but unfortunately, the other party is not a mind reader. Inevitably, something is lost in translation from thought to language, and (as my avatar was fond of pointing out) our thoughts are only as good as the quality of our language.

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Wonderful answer Reese.
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Yes, that is!!:0).
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That was sho nuff a dang good answer it was real real good fur shur
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Ha! Thanks for the high praise, friends:)
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Morning, and your welcome!:0).
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Star George!
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George would be proud......
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Aw. :,)
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that was a smart answer
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Thanks, buddy:)
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No, I haven't watched Idiocracy, but I might check it out. Have you seen My Fair Lady? It's all about speaking proper English.
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Love that movie! The guy who was consulted for 19th Century British illocution wrote the textbook for my phonetics class.
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Nice
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I had a 6th grade student in my English class who was big into musicals; she raised her hand after another student stated "much mo betta" and said, "they should be taken out and hung for the cold blooded murder of the English tongue"
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Ha! From the mouths of babes...
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Reese-ck yr ml .
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'Idiocracy' is a wonderful movie and a horror flick of fulfilled, modern prophesy, unfortunately!
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Ha! Yes, all too plausible.
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I think grammar is still important. This is because it helps us communicate well with one another. Another importance is that it helps students improve their writing. Read more at http://www.atozofenglish.com/2010/01/importance-of-grammar.html.

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You are correct. I am widowed and converse on a telephone chat line. I keep my finger on the "block" button as most do not speak the English language as I know it.
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Ya kinda

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no good grammar is a complete waste of time. everything is shortened anyway (brb lol ttyl)

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I really, really hope you're kidding XD
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Penguin, there are seven errors in your answer.
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You go Teach!!!***
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Actually, your answer could be interpreted as being supportive of good grammar. You didn't put a comma after "no." "No, grammar is a complete waste of time" is different than "No grammar is a waste of time." The former says what you wanted to say. The latter says that none of the grammars of any language are a waste of time.
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Ha,ha!!

what does 'brb' stand for?
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Thanks!:0).
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Wow, tell me why you want to be ignorant in a world that has so much knowledge that we will not understand a portion of it in our lifetime. Correct words are music to the ear; slang is a harsh note.
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-_- all i have to say is grammar is stupid. If we understand what people mean then we are fine.
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um it actually is so we don't sound like complete retards
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In order to learn another language you need good grammar and yes it's very important

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Not true! In Thai and Mandarin there is no "grammar" and learning their languages has little to do with sentence structure or syntax because they simply don't matter. In these languages verbs do not have tenses so syntax is straight out the window. Grammar rules are a holdover from the bloody British way of life in the first millennium meant to separate those with money from those without simply by the way they spoke.
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Yes, it makes communication easier and no one would trust a doctor or other professional that doesn't have it.

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No doubt! Ever see "Idiocracy"? No one wants that doctor!
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Yes is it me or are our children lacking in good grammar?

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Some...no, MOST are. Hopefully, swag will leave soon. Maybe grammar can be the NEXT trend!
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Not so much in my family, children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren and the rest cannot speak too well due to their age. Actually, my sister and I married early so we went back to night school. The English teacher did not know her English so there is no way she could teach the children. She said, "I wish I was..." and "If I was..." Both times I told her she had to use the word 'were' and she said, "Sometimes you can use 'was', no wonder the children do not know how to speak well.
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I strongly think it's important. Without good grammar this is what would happen... (Example)----->Its time to eat grandma! That sounds weird as in why would you eat your grandma? Here is what it should say ----->It's time to eat, Grandma! Punctuations help and capitalizing makes it look more pro :) Hope I helped! :D

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Good for you
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Yes, yes, and yes!

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Yep

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ha, ha, ha; "yep"; very funny.
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It depends what for. obviously, I'm not going to use good grammar with my friends or while texting, but with my teachers or elders in genera, my grammar has to be spot on.

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The more you use proper grammar, the better you are.
You will write the way you speak, so I don't talk speak properly, you'll also write improperly.
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nopper but it really depends on what the situation is

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You are kidding. If you did not know correct grammar how will you know it when that situation arises? Perhaps you are not awar that a poorly worded legal paper is not acceptable and can be overturned.....
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wellper, why you gots to know when to use the correct grammar when the situation arises. up in here, the situation don't nary arise nary none atall.
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It is if you wanna be a lawyer

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I hope you are deliberately saying 'wanna'. Actually that is not so. As the woman said above you; according to the proper line of words you may be saying just the opposite of your intent. Like, eat grandma.
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spoze so , sometimes

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It's impossible to improve on Reesinator's answer. If you want to know whether grammar, syntax, punctuation, and spelling are important, you need look no further than Ask to see how many Q&A are completely misunderstood.

Your grammar doesn't have to be perfect but if you don't understand the fundamentals you won't be able to exchange ideas very effectively. It's a little like driving a motor vehicle without knowing or obeying the road rules.

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When I see these foreign students on Ask, especially from Chins but also Circle, whohave made it their life goal to learn English the proper way...they sleep and dream it and study it day and night...why shouldn't we too? It seems other cultures have more respect for out language than we do. They see it as a privilege to have the opportunity to learn English and are thankful for the
chance. Sometimes it just gets embarrassing.
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China not Chins***
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our not out***
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I've completely stuffed a couple of answers recently by misinterpreting what the Asker wanted to know. Sometimes all you can do is guess. It doesn't really matter on Ask because most Q&A aren't about really vital subjects, but saying the wrong thing in the wrong place can cost you a relationship, lose a friend, or even get you fired from a job ... and you wouldn't even know what went wrong.
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Both very good points, Fire and Dozy!
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Wow. Any praise from you is an honor indeed. And how could I have forgotten punctuation?! Thanks, Dodgy.
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Nothing but the truth, Rees. It was a superb answer.
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I can feel the love....
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You can't rite real good or talk rite if you don't got no good grammar and you seem real stupid two if you can't talk or spell rite and punkiashun is real good to and spellin and don't repeat yurself a lot or people will get board and think yur dum

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Ha! You included one of my favorite features of Ask answers: the sentence that never ends. Calling them "run-on sentences" is an insult to run-on sentences.
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Ya'll is funny!! he,he..
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punkiashun is vury portint
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Yal er sew funee!
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I wanted to be curful not ta use no bad punkiashun ur nuthin.
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I tink yoo ded a gud jobe
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Actually there was no way I could top Reese's answer so I tried to illustrate what not to do. I'm sure I make plenty of grammatical errors without even trying but it was kind of difficult to purposely make as many errors as possible. Kinda fun though.
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Agreed :0)
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Yeah, but I could understand everything you said. Grammar's only a guideline to help people communicate, and despite those errors, you communicated totally clearly. Probably wouldn't do for a job interview, but otherwise, who cares.
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You should.
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Just because you understood it does not negate the importance of being able to communicate properly.
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Why not?
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Let's say your doctor did not write the prescription clearly and the pharmacist read the script to say something else entirely. You are given the meds with incorrect instructions.....
OR
"Let's eat Grandpa." -- means you are physically going to eat Grandpa
vs.
"Let's eat, Grandpa." -- means you are asking Grandpa to eat with you, not eat him.

Just a couple of examples, but if you do not care...then do not care.
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@gpph. You have a point. What I said was understandable but if someone was to seriously speak or write that way they would lose credibility and sound uneducated. There are examples of people speaking and writing in such a way that it really is difficult to understand them. This is why grammar, sentence structure and spelling are important. Knowing when to say you're and your, there, their and they're, loose and lose etc. are also important. Not just so people know what you're saying but so that you don't sound like an idjut.
Reesinator actually covered it pretty well in his answer.
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In that instance, unless the person you're talking to is a cannibal, you can judge from context that he's not talking about eating Grandpa. And a prescription doesn't got much grammar. But I definitely agree that in a professional environment, it's important to write as properly as possible.
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JDBoDean: That makes sense. I agree with you that grammar errors in writing are distracting. But in talking I think good grammar's less imperative. PS. This conversation has got me editing these posts like a fiend.
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"And a prescription doesn't got much grammar." Really? Yeah I am nitpicking now because it is obvious from your answer below that you know you typed that incorrectly. ;0)

The other thing to look at is that tone is difficult to tell when reading. If there is proper punctuation, your message will come across. If not, meaning/tone is up for grabs. Examples can be found here on Ask every single day. No capitalization, punctuation, misspellings...then a "?" at the end to denote it was question, but which part???
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Haha. Yeah, I've noticed those. They're sort of like a puzzle.
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Sometimes when they are really bad, you can have fun with them. Give multiple responses in your answers. You are bound to get one of them right :0)
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Good thread!:0).
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Agree. And hi! :)
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My father was born in 1908 and lived in a coal minning town in Tennessee so he was only allowed to go to the 3rd grade and did not want to write to me due to his speaking. I convienced him to write the way it sounded and he did a much better job than a lot of people I hear. My husband was born in 1928 in Ireland. As the children had to work the fields they were allowed to only go to the 8th grade. When he found evidence a son played hookie he took them to the subdivision to work hard and told them, "This is what you will be doing if you do not get an education."
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This may sound odd, but a man that articulates his speach, is much sexier to me
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Actually marlenjoyce that doesn't sound odd to me. Sounds like a smart father and husband.
Many kids today take so much for granted. They think of education as an inconvenience. People to whom formal education was unavailable often place a higher value on it and work harder to educate themselves. It was no disgrace for your father or your husband not to be formally educated but it is a disgrace that many people place such little value on it.
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This reminds me of one of my teachers English rules

Don't use no double negatives
The verb be has to be conjugated when you be using it as a helper verb.

Subjects and verbs has to agree in number and gender.
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Yes, it is important to have proper grammar. It is the difference between sounding articulate or sounding like a moron.

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Yes. Otherwise you sound like an idiot.

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Or an idjut.
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Yessss, it should definately be considered important! Using bad grammer makes you seem horribly uneducated, saying something along the lines of "You is gonna do this" is just cringeworthy.

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Any sentence anyone has ever said requires an unbelievably complex understanding of its language. And it's almost all subconscious. A kid might not know how to define "noun" or "verb," but they know nouns and verbs when they hear them; they'd never say "I'm gonna shoe around the block," because shoe isn't a verb. In fact, just to make a single syllable, you have to select from a practically infinite variety of sounds. Somehow our subconscious learns all that before we even enter elementary school. It's amazing. So I stay true to what my subconscious thinks----and I know what that is because it's just what feels right.

Here's another way to think about it: many great musicians from the past century made awesome music without ever reading a thing about music theory. Well, music theory is just grammar for music.

But if you're in a professional environment, especially if you're writing (like an email or something), you should try to use "proper" grammar. People probably won't judge you for comma splices or "their"vs."there" errors, but those errors can distract from what you're trying to say.

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Completely agree
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yes statistics have proven that this generation has very improper grammar. it is still very important if you would like to have a job....

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What statistics?
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Yeesss!

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yes especially if your a guy because honestly girls find it really attractive when guys have good grammar

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Ha, ha, ha. That is what I said above; and I am no longer considered a girl. An educated man that dresses well is a real turn-on.
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For us who are not native English speakers, it is very important.

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yes of course but people think its okay to use "slang language" .....no offense to the people who do but grammar is important
_LIZ_

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DEFINITELY you need good grammar all the time

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Forever, and always...

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No answer but a question. How does society retrain students to pay attention to their school teacher instead of fighting each other? Each generation is becoming more and more stupid. We are lucky that we have some people just born with 'smarts'.

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Do you have any evidence to support your claim that every generation is getting stupider?
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I was in teaching and was appalled at how books being released now a days are incorrectly worded.
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It is, and it will always be, of !00% importance. See the data provided by John Locke in his "Essay Concerning Human Understanding." Or, if fiction is prefered, try the satirical novel re language from the same time period, Laurence Sterne's "...Tristram Shandy." It is truly, hysterically funny reading, but a read that needs to have always kept in mind, it's satire. Conveniently so for us, or for anyone interested in reading just portions of it, it's an early and classic satire on language and grammar. Fun!

SGTMOMMA, above, says it the best.

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Definitely. People are forgetting about good grammar. Text language and such. People don't communicate face to face very often anymore and it saddens me. Even some kids at my school write their essays with text language, and it's just really, really sad. People should always have nice grammar, punctuation, spelling, everything. It makes me kind of sad people still can't tell the difference between their, they're, and there.

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Good point Jilly and Kevin.
"I am over there with their dog.
They're not home, however.
So I will take their dog and go home.
I may have to make two or three calls too, until they are home and I can bring their dog back.
He should not be outside alone!"
I am a corny person. But it was fun.
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Haha no it's good you still use good grammar :-)
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Yes. Of course it is important. It helps one be easier to understand and sound more natural.

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Yes it is important in this advance world.It is helpful to understand the words proporly.

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Yes, even if it is often overlooked currently.
Computers do not edit well.
We still need people for that. Ummm....that is also often overlooked currently.

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Grammar IS important.
The more it is ignored, and the more it falls to the wayside, the worse off we all are.
I have read some of my father's letters and other people's writings back when, (the 1930's) who learned by phonics but had little schooling.
The bit they learned made what they wrote decipherable, wrong grammar and all.
And I am proud of them for doing so well.
But in our society now, there should be no place for illiteracy.
I have still have struggles spelling because of the program used to teach me in my early years.
The only thing good I can say about it, is it was English, and it was soon cancelled due to its complete failure.
The old 'See/Say' method.
I learned most of what I know from coaching my children with their homework in Christian grade school.
And my mother taught and insisted on proper English.
Bless her heart, and thank you mom!
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Only in school like on homework & test. Also in Job applications & stuff like that. Everywhere else it's pointless

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I understand your point of view but I must disagree, you don't want to give kids, or even adults, the wrong message. Another thing is you could easily form a bad habit of saying the word "aint".
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Yes, communication is key to all societies and without good grammar we are on our way down a lonely road. I can not even believe this is a question. We {as a society} have already lost so many important skills, and this I feel is one that is especially important. I would hate to see the day when we can no longer communicate and understand each other, and I fear that day will come if we aren't aware of the possibility and do something to change it. Any grammatical error(s) that may be in my comment is a pure example of the loss of that skill.

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YES (of course it does depend on the situation, but yes)

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I don't see how this could even be a question.

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Yes,I think it's very very important,but my grammar is very bad.so sad

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Its not important anymore even though it should be

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Yes .it can help others to understand us better.

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Being an English teacher, yes. Grammar is important to teach the youth before it becomes completely obsolete.

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Of course, English grammar is most important because of you can easily communication with other. You can easily learn and talk English languages.

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Yes, I try to have good grammar, punctuation, spelling, and good vocabulary as much as possible. :)

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It is important in the long run, especially when applying for a job because you will need to have a beyond average level English to apply for certain jobs. It's a requirement for certain aspects in life. Last semester I had to take a hard English class in college because I need it to graduate and transfer to a four year university because it is part of the requirement in the US for students to learn to read, write, and use proper use of grammar in order to move up to higher rank in education. It was a hard class, but I ended up getting a B grade in it, still I learned a lot that I didn't know before. Good grammar is also good for your knowledge and it is healthy to be educated. So take it as a good thing. It serves a lot of good purposes.

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yes, if you know grammar , and some words , then you can make sentence :)

this is for English German .. for Chinese seems not .

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yes, if you know grammar, so take it as a good thing

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yes (:

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