First, you really need to go to church. They are equally all the same and different, if that makes sense. Jesus is god himself come to earth in human form. Jesus is god but since he is human he isn't the same. I'm not a preacher so I can't really explain it, you just need to go to church. Hopefully I helped a little bit
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Many people believe that Jesus never actually claimed to be God. Personally, I feel that most people who believe this, themselves, simply do not want to believe that Jesus was/is God; and they use the invalid statement, Jesus never claimed to be God, as alleged support for their lack of belief (and lack of careful study of the Gospel accounts).
Hi, Ausername. It's really hard for people to get this mixed up because it is kind of complicated. You have the Godhead (The Trinity) - the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus came down as God's son, but He's also God the Father. It's hard to understand because they're both one, yet separate. Jesus is the one and only mediator between God and man, no one else. That is why after we pray, a lot of people say, "In Jesus' name we pray, Amen."
My father is human. I am human. God the Father has a son. He also shares the same substance as God the Father. Just like I and my father are human, God the Father and God the Son are God. Its only confusing because you think of God the Father as God. The early church and a different method of explaining it, and we call it Logos theology. Logos Theology started because John gospel calls the pre-existent Christ the Word. Can you think of a time when you didn't think using words? The early church thought of Jesus in this way, he was the words which God spoke, the thought process God used, and there was never a time when God didn't have words. Similarly analogous is a computer and the software which it runs. But because of greek philosophic deficiencies, the church stopped using this theology and instead developed the system we have today, the Trinity.
This seems to be an on going problem with Christianity. Jesus is God, He is the earthly son of God but God all the same. When Jesus was on earth he was less then God, but was God tn the flesh. He was the perfect sacrifice for mans sin in which he was sacrificed to himself. Now are we clear on this?
Jesus said that “the true worshipers will worship the Father with . . . truth.” (John 4:23) That truth has been recorded in the Bible. (John 17:17) Does the Bible teach that the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit are three persons in one God? For one thing, the Bible does not mention the word “Trinity.” For another, Jesus never claimed to be equal to God. Instead, Jesus worshipped God. (Luke 22:41-44) A third line of evidence concerns Jesus’ relationship with his followers. Even after he was raised from the dead to the spirit realm, Jesus called his followers “my brothers.” (Matthew 28:10) Were they brothers of Almighty God? Of course not! But through their faith in Christ—God’s preeminent Son—they too became sons of the one Father. (Galatians 3:26) Www.jw.org
Trinitarian doctrine was an attempt to get around the fact that by worshiping Jesus, the early Christians were polytheistic. Though early Christians were actually quite divided over whether Jesus was god or just the son of god- the matter was decided for good at the Council of Nicaea.
The trinity concept is not even original- it, like much of the Judeo-Christian mythos, is based on older mythology of the region (in this case Zoroastrianism). Of course the "trinity" also creates a problem with the "atonement"- how does one sacrifice himself to himself, and how is that a sacrifice in the first place.
The vast majority of Christians try to explain the trinity with poor analogies or by just saying "it's complicated so you need to have faith".
Luke 4:8 NIVJesus answered, ?It is written: ?Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.? ?Jesus allowed people to bow down and worship Him. Luke 5:12-13 NIRV
While Jesus was in one of the towns, a man came along. He had a skin disease all over his body. When he saw Jesus, he fell with his face to the ground. He begged him, "Lord, if you are willing to make me 'clean,' you can do it." Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing to do it," he said. "Be 'clean'!" Right away the disease left him.
'God' is a family not just a person. Jesus claimed to be the 'I AM' which was the Old Testament active participant from the Godhead so whenever there was a live participant it was Jesus pre-existent. We were created to live as families so we might more easily understand our Creator.
Jesus Christ is God because God itself begoten him. Jesus is not a created being. Jesus Christ was came directly from the bossom of the father. He is also God. Jesus has been existing in eternity even before He was manifested in flesh. He is God.
Jesus Christ is not the father nor the holy spirit. God the father is different from God the Son.
The truth is, the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Many will say John 1:1 will prove the Trinity, but the truth is that if you read further on into The book of John, you will see the further elaboration of that scripture; which actually proves that Jesus is indeed God's son. (John 14:20)
You are right Jesus is Gods son. Many people have differing views about Jesus and his relationship with his father. But looking into what Jesus himself said about his relationship with his father would really be the best source. John 14:28 Jesus said '...the father is greater than I am.' Philippians 2:5-11 says ...Jesus gave no consideration...that he should be equip to God...' No where in the scriptures did Jesus say he and God were the same. These are just a few scriptures to prove that point. Also Jesus in prayer to his father Jesus said this means 'eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.'(John 17:1-3) He couldn't be both and he didn't claim to be.
If Jesus is not the son of god then whose son is he? God is the sole proprietor of the bodily flesh that makes him a son. Not only a son but also a man for that matter. If you wish to understand how he being god can have a god or he being a man can be a spirit then I suggest you should think on the word godhead.
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Jesus was the Son of God while he was in the flesh, and in that way inferior, and therefore "son". After the resurrection the bond between Son and father (and man!) because much closer in a spiritual sense. The Son, at the right hand of the father, became the "image" of the Father. The Father is unapproachable and unseen; however Jesus now as "image" of the Father allows us to know about, and come to, and as it were SEE, the Father, through him. Think of the inside of a castle with all that it could contain; well, Jesus is the doorway to that castle. From outside you can't see inside the castle but you can see its front gate. In the book of John (in the Bible) Jesus describes himself as the "Door"; and indeed He is! In a very real sense the door of the castle, and the castle itself, are One. Jesus is One with the father and in this way is God also: he is the Door, the Image, of God: all that is in the Father is also in the Son.
Origin of the Trinity doctrine! The New Encyclopedia Britannica says: " Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ' Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:". KingJames Bible. ( Deuteronomy 6:4) The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies ....By the end of the 4th century....the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since." ----(1976, Micropaedia, Vol. X. P. 126. The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: " The formulation' one God in three Perdons was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that had first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective ," ( 1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299 The Illustrated Bible Dictionary gives one reason. Speaking of the Trinity, this publication admits " It is not a Biblical doctrine,". Trinitarians have been desperately looking forcible texts---even twisting them--to find support for their teaching. One of the scriptures they can not twist is ( Matthew 24:36). " But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only." Revised Standard Version It's easy to read, no one knows, not the angels, nor the Son, but the FATHER only. Answer for the person that asked the question. Please do your own research, may take some time. Don't take my word for it, see what does the Bible really teach.
at John 14:28 it says "You heard that I said to you, I am going away and I am coming back to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am" Good question. www.jw.org
ASSLAM O ALAIKUM. Sorry to say Jesus is neither God and son of God(ALLAH). As Allah has forbidden to say these words in Quran clearly. At one place in Quran ALLAH Will ask Hazrat Isa Allahi Islam (Jesus) would you recommend them to say you are Allah, Hazrat Isa Allahi Islam will deny it and answered ALLAH Knows what I said before and after my arival. So its not truth Read Quran for your Answers?
Because many people do not understand the scriptures. Jesus and the apostles taught the distinction between Jesus and God. One of the most noted scriptures is John 3:16. However, because of the wording at John 1 "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was god". The "god" is lower cased to signify that the word was "a god" but not God himself. Many people do not understand this and thus say God and Jesus are one in the same. There are some bibles that include a foreword that show God has His own personal name to help people understand further the distinction.
Jesus taught his disciples to pray: “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.” Our heavenly Father, whose name is Jehovah, is described in the Bible as being superior to his Son. For example, Jehovah is “from everlasting to everlasting.” But the Bible says that Jesus is “the firstborn of every creature.” That Jehovah is greater than Jesus, Jesus himself taught when he said: “My Father is greater than I.” (Matthew 6:9; Psalm 90:1, 2; Colossians 1:15; John 14:28, King James Version) I hope these scriptures help:) I also encourage you to look up these few scriptures in your own bible, it doesn't matter what version it is.
As taught in the Bible, simply stated, Jesus the Christ, has attributes of God--eternal, creator, omniscient, omnipotent. This is why He is God. His coming into the world was supernatural, the term 'Son of God' being more a title than trying to denote genealogy, just as the title as 'Son of man.' That is the teaching of the Bible---He was the miraculous union of God and man, the God-man. Is anything too hard for God? No.
Christian theology has taught the deity of Christ since the early church. His closest disciple, John, wrote that He was in the beginning and made all things. Without the deity of Christ, in fact, Jesus was a fraud and deceiver, or crazy. To claim to be the Way, the Truth, the Life, the Judge of man, the Resurrection and the Life, the First and the Last, etc...really? Unless...He is.
His miracles and His own resurrection from the dead authenticated every word He said. Now, His death, burial and resurrection take on infinitely more significance, when the identity of Jesus Christ is established. God took my place...paid my debt...took my judgment. Wow.