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Why do people say Jesus is God. Isn't Jesus just the son of God, so that wouldn't make him God

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No, Jesus is God in the flesh.

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Is Jesus just God in Human form? It just seems weird to me that they are the same, even though Jesus wasn't born till after the earth was made and all of the other stuff
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Hey, Brudder!
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Yes ausrname, they are the same but different. I know that's kinda hard to understand but they are completely the same. And at the same time they are completely different. It's hard to understand something like this, but if you stop using brick like structure for your thinking like the whole world has taught you, then it becomes a little bit easier
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Hey Sis! Ausername, Jesus was around before. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word is God. It's talked about in Luke. I would have to do some research, which I am completely willing to do, if you would like? But, you would have to wait till later, or tomorrow. I have to go to school soon and won't be able to spend the time to put it together. Scripture and trying to break it down for you in a simplest form. Don't take offense, a lot a people have a hard time wrapping there head around this. It's like if we cut you into 3 parts. If you could and still survive. Well, God can. Let me know if you would like me to put together scripture, and so on for you.
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Thank you! And if you want to that would be great, whenever you have time :)
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No, that's okay. But thank you so much. Jesus has always been around because it was God that actually came down in the form as a man Himself, well as I was taught. But you know I don't like to get into "religious" arguments (you call them something else). Oh, BTW, I just wrote you mail while you were writing this. LOL Talk soon, I hope.
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I'm so ditzy, Brudder. You were talking to Ausername. Grrrr. Sorry!!!!!
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Yes, I was talking to Ausername. I said Hi. I will look at you email then I got to get ready for school. Not sure when my ride is going to show up. My laptop has been running so slow, it's pathetic. Love You Sis!!
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Ausername, have you tried researching the word your self?
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Ausername, it isn't about understanding how. Do you understand how ice, steam, and water are all the same but have different functions? Do you understand how deep the ocean is, how there are billions of galaxies? Have you ever counted the stars? Well, God did not give us enough intelligence to understand because He wants us to believe and have faith. If you read the Bible your self, you will find that it clearly says Jesus is God. Read it, and when you have questions, don't ask us humans, ask God himself. He will give you the correct answer. :)
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I don't agree. When I go to life groups, we all disciple each other. Like in Luke 15:11-32. The parable of the lost son. So everyone pays attention to the son. Did you ever stop to think it's about the father. How our Heavenly Father perceives us. Runs up to him,(meets him were the son was at)throws His arms around him, throws on the best robe, get some sandals, kill a cow, party. I think this scripture is about God. Earlier in chapter 15 The Parable about the lost sheep. Put those into context. So, I do believe that we should back what we say with scripture. And give the reference we are talking about like I just did with you. You can read for yourself. I like digging, and talking about scripture. i think people with the knowledge of the Bible and have been Christians for a while. It's good to seek an understanding when you don't know. I would say Ausername, that make sure whoever you do ask, they give scripture, and you pray. There are a lot of people who will deceive you.
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First, you really need to go to church. They are equally all the same and different, if that makes sense. Jesus is god himself come to earth in human form. Jesus is god but since he is human he isn't the same. I'm not a preacher so I can't really explain it, you just need to go to church. Hopefully I helped a little bit

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Maybe you need to stop going to church and use some sense. This is something that never happened and was created by humans.
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You don't have to insult others beliefs, if you don't agree don't comment it's rude
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really?? no,people go to church so they can learn about god.
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Divertiment, I think the only reason you are thinking about it like that is because you don't fully understand what you are talking about. You should really try to learn about the word of god before you start trying to interpret it or answer questions about it
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You can't explain it because it doesn't make sense. It was never meant to make sense; it is primitive mythology.
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Going to church certainly hasn't helped you to understand it. Why encourage people to believe something that doesn't even make sense to you?
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This is pure hilarious
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First of all, your a hypocrite for saying that I can't explain something and you can. Where is your proof that he DOESN'T exist huh? I'd like you to show me something that he didn't create. Just try it, I dare you. But you won't because your afraid of the truth, that god is your father and creator and you are less than him. Everyone is, and everyone is a terrible person. But he forgives and gives you a chance to repent, I pray that you do
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As he stated himself consistently Jesus was a person much like all of us He was a regular person. The rest is just people's exaggeration.

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But then there is no evidence that Jesus ever existed, even as a regular person. The gospels were written much later.
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I don't think they went so far on making stuff up but that is a possibility. The problem is if you change one thing the whole integrity gets affected.
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They didn't need to just make stuff up. Christianity has very similar dogmas and beliefs as other prominent religions and mythologies present in that area at that time. I doubt that to be a coincidence.
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They say it because that's what they were taught. This has been teaching since ancient days, decades after Jesus died, though. It's not real or true, that's why it makes no sense.

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Okay, why don't you try learning about something before you make a comment about it. Maybe it's just a little bit offensive when you insult someone's religion.
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notg... Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are insulting you.
This is an open web site where you will hear every perspective and opinion from around the world. It is not your private site for religious fanatics.
Maybe Divert... Is saying that because they have studied and learned.
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Perhaps divert is saying those things because he decided to learn and not just obey with closed eyes. You guys always say u have to go to church and learn. Guess what! You've been stuck in one book that was selectively gathered by bunch of "let's keep the power" people some 300 years after Jesus. Since then, there's been billions of discoveries, books, information ...... Wake up!
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Jesus and God are one in the same.

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Jesus is the image of god but every one is gods children i understand your confusion

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Yeah it's just never really made sense but thanks I think I understand a little bit better
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Many people believe that Jesus never actually claimed to be God. Personally, I feel that most people who believe this, themselves, simply do not want to believe that Jesus was/is God; and they use the invalid statement, Jesus never claimed to be God, as alleged support for their lack of belief (and lack of careful study of the Gospel accounts).

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Hi, Ausername. It's really hard for people to get this mixed up because it is kind of complicated. You have the Godhead (The Trinity) - the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus came down as God's son, but He's also God the Father. It's hard to understand because they're both one, yet separate. Jesus is the one and only mediator between God and man, no one else. That is why after we pray, a lot of people say, "In Jesus' name we pray, Amen."

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That is a lot better than my explanation
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Oooh okay thank you!
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It's hard to explain, I think, Not_Giving_Up!
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Ausername, you're very welcome. But it is hard to understand.
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He's part of the Trinity. God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost).

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My father is human. I am human. God the Father has a son. He also shares the same substance as God the Father. Just like I and my father are human, God the Father and God the Son are God. Its only confusing because you think of God the Father as God. The early church and a different method of explaining it, and we call it Logos theology.
Logos Theology started because John gospel calls the pre-existent Christ the Word. Can you think of a time when you didn't think using words? The early church thought of Jesus in this way, he was the words which God spoke, the thought process God used, and there was never a time when God didn't have words. Similarly analogous is a computer and the software which it runs. But because of greek philosophic deficiencies, the church stopped using this theology and instead developed the system we have today, the Trinity.

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A name of God, who appeared to Moses in a burning bush, is ?I AM? (Exodus 3:1-15?see ?YHWH or Yahweh, the ?I AM??). In fact, Jesus also made claims of Himself as being the great ?I AM??and, thus, God.
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An argument for your own thread. I agree, but it is off topic.
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Sorry to say Hazrat Isa Allahi Islam (Jesus) was not God or Son of God. The Matter was maden a Trial for your and Your forefathers but still in Doubt after all this Progress(in Science) you are still in doubt. Actually ALLAH Took them on Sky and will Return to Impose ALLAH will as at the moment all is going against it as you people are doing in each walk of life. Beware Time is less to think Think if Hazrat Isa Allahi Islam (Jesus) returns and then Pray with Muslims in Fajar Prayer as Muslim what's be do you People or Next Generation Think we were educated wrong the Truth is this and that was false.
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They have the identical DNA.

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This seems to be an on going problem with Christianity. Jesus is God, He is the earthly son of God but God all the same. When Jesus was on earth he was less then God, but was God tn the flesh. He was the perfect sacrifice for mans sin in which he was sacrificed to himself. Now are we clear on this?

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Jesus said that “the true worshipers will worship the Father with . . . truth.” (John 4:23) That truth has been recorded in the Bible. (John 17:17) Does the Bible teach that the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit are three persons in one God?
For one thing, the Bible does not mention the word “Trinity.” For another, Jesus never claimed to be equal to God. Instead, Jesus worshipped God. (Luke 22:41-44) A third line of evidence concerns Jesus’ relationship with his followers. Even after he was raised from the dead to the spirit realm, Jesus called his followers “my brothers.” (Matthew 28:10) Were they brothers of Almighty God? Of course not! But through their faith in Christ—God’s preeminent Son—they too became sons of the one Father. (Galatians 3:26)
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Trinitarian doctrine was an attempt to get around the fact that by worshiping Jesus, the early Christians were polytheistic. Though early Christians were actually quite divided over whether Jesus was god or just the son of god- the matter was decided for good at the Council of Nicaea.

The trinity concept is not even original- it, like much of the Judeo-Christian mythos, is based on older mythology of the region (in this case Zoroastrianism). Of course the "trinity" also creates a problem with the "atonement"- how does one sacrifice himself to himself, and how is that a sacrifice in the first place.

The vast majority of Christians try to explain the trinity with poor analogies or by just saying "it's complicated so you need to have faith".

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For some inane reason I'm not being allowed to answer this question. So I must borrow a comment spot here.
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Let me explain.
God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all the same single God , but when humanity sinned by being tricked by a talking snake that God made, of course then God required a torturous sacrifice to make up for it. But, it had to be a perfect sacrifice so God had no choice but to become himself as human to be sacrificed to himself for sins committed against himself by people made in the image of himself.
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I don't know who the mod on duty is but it is way out of bounds of the job description to prevent my answer from being posted.
This is where the accusations are justified about ask.com being a Christian biased site.
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Agreed Raven. Like God and Jesus, in addition to being me, I am also the Queen of England. Despite this, I have no juice with the ask moderators.
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Jesus is both Son of God and a physical manifestation of God Himself in human flesh,
The Triumvirate God
God as Father (God)
God as Son (Jesus)
God as Holy Spirit
God as One in three parts, but one.

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Luke 4:8 NIVJesus answered, ?It is written: ?Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.? ?Jesus allowed people to bow down and worship Him.
Luke 5:12-13 NIRV

While Jesus was in one of the towns, a man came along. He had a skin disease all over his body. When he saw Jesus, he fell with his face to the ground. He begged him, "Lord, if you are willing to make me 'clean,' you can do it." Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing to do it," he said. "Be 'clean'!" Right away the disease left him.

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He allowed many to bow down at his feet and worship Him.
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John 1:1-3 & 14 explain this. Read it first in the KJV, then read it in the NASB and another modern version until you understand it well. Jesus is both the Son of God and God.

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'God' is a family not just a person. Jesus claimed to be the 'I AM' which was the Old Testament active participant from the Godhead so whenever there was a live participant it was Jesus pre-existent. We were created to live as families so we might more easily understand our Creator.

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Jesus Christ is God because God itself begoten him. Jesus is not a created being. Jesus Christ was came directly from the bossom of the father. He is also God. Jesus has been existing in eternity even before He was manifested in flesh. He is God.

Jesus Christ is not the father nor the holy spirit. God the father is different from God the Son.

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The truth is, the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Many will say John 1:1 will prove the Trinity, but the truth is that if you read further on into The book of John, you will see the further elaboration of that scripture; which actually proves that Jesus is indeed God's son. (John 14:20)

Hope I helped!

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You are right Jesus is Gods son. Many people have differing views about Jesus and his relationship with his father. But looking into what Jesus himself said about his relationship with his father would really be the best source. John 14:28 Jesus said '...the father is greater than I am.' Philippians 2:5-11 says ...Jesus gave no consideration...that he should be equip to God...' No where in the scriptures did Jesus say he and God were the same. These are just a few scriptures to prove that point. Also Jesus in prayer to his father Jesus said this means 'eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.'(John 17:1-3) He couldn't be both and he didn't claim to be.

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If Jesus is not the son of god then whose son is he? God is the sole proprietor of the bodily flesh that makes him a son. Not only a son but also a man for that matter. If you wish to understand how he being god can have a god or he being a man can be a spirit then I suggest you should think on the word godhead.

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No I knew he is the son of God, I was asking if Jesus is God, and I now understand that he is.
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Jesus was the Son of God while he was in the flesh, and in that way inferior, and therefore "son". After the resurrection the bond between Son and father (and man!) because much closer in a spiritual sense. The Son, at the right hand of the father, became the "image" of the Father. The Father is unapproachable and unseen; however Jesus now as "image" of the Father allows us to know about, and come to, and as it were SEE, the Father, through him. Think of the inside of a castle with all that it could contain; well, Jesus is the doorway to that castle. From outside you can't see inside the castle but you can see its front gate. In the book of John (in the Bible) Jesus describes himself as the "Door"; and indeed He is! In a very real sense the door of the castle, and the castle itself, are One. Jesus is One with the father and in this way is God also: he is the Door, the Image, of God: all that is in the Father is also in the Son.

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This was a great explanation thank you!
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Origin of the Trinity doctrine!
The New Encyclopedia Britannica says: " Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ' Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:". KingJames Bible. ( Deuteronomy 6:4) The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies ....By the end of the 4th century....the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since." ----(1976, Micropaedia, Vol. X. P. 126. The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: " The formulation' one God in three Perdons was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that had first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma.
Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective ," ( 1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299
The Illustrated Bible Dictionary gives one reason. Speaking of the Trinity, this publication admits " It is not a Biblical doctrine,". Trinitarians have been desperately looking forcible texts---even twisting them--to find support for their teaching. One of the scriptures they can not twist is ( Matthew 24:36). " But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only." Revised Standard Version It's easy to read, no one knows, not the angels, nor the Son, but the FATHER only. Answer for the person that asked the question. Please do your own research, may take some time. Don't take my word for it, see what does the Bible really teach.

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at John 14:28 it says "You heard that I said to you, I am going away and I am coming back to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am" Good question.
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ASSLAM O ALAIKUM. Sorry to say Jesus is neither God and son of God(ALLAH). As Allah has forbidden to say these words in Quran clearly. At one place in Quran ALLAH Will ask Hazrat Isa Allahi Islam (Jesus) would you recommend them to say you are Allah, Hazrat Isa Allahi Islam will deny it and answered ALLAH Knows what I said before and after my arival. So its not truth Read Quran for your Answers?

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Because many people do not understand the scriptures. Jesus and the apostles taught the distinction between Jesus and God. One of the most noted scriptures is John 3:16. However, because of the wording at John 1 "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was god". The "god" is lower cased to signify that the word was "a god" but not God himself. Many people do not understand this and thus say God and Jesus are one in the same. There are some bibles that include a foreword that show God has His own personal name to help people understand further the distinction.

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Jesus taught his disciples to pray: “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.” Our heavenly Father, whose name is Jehovah, is described in the Bible as being superior to his Son. For example, Jehovah is “from everlasting to everlasting.” But the Bible says that Jesus is “the firstborn of every creature.” That Jehovah is greater than Jesus, Jesus himself taught when he said: “My Father is greater than I.” (Matthew 6:9; Psalm 90:1, 2; Colossians 1:15; John 14:28, King James Version) I hope these scriptures help:) I also encourage you to look up these few scriptures in your own bible, it doesn't matter what version it is.

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As taught in the Bible, simply stated, Jesus the Christ, has attributes of God--eternal, creator, omniscient, omnipotent. This is why He is God. His coming into the world was supernatural, the term 'Son of God' being more a title than trying to denote genealogy, just as the title as 'Son of man.' That is the teaching of the Bible---He was the miraculous union of God and man, the God-man. Is anything too hard for God? No.

Christian theology has taught the deity of Christ since the early church. His closest disciple, John, wrote that He was in the beginning and made all things. Without the deity of Christ, in fact, Jesus was a fraud and deceiver, or crazy. To claim to be the Way, the Truth, the Life, the Judge of man, the Resurrection and the Life, the First and the Last, etc...really? Unless...He is.

His miracles and His own resurrection from the dead authenticated every word He said.
Now, His death, burial and resurrection take on infinitely more significance, when the identity of Jesus Christ is established. God took my place...paid my debt...took my judgment. Wow.

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