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What did John the Baptist mean when he stated in John 2:30 'He (Jesus) must increase, but I must decrease.' ?

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Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
3:22-36 John was fully satisfied with the place and work assigned him; but Jesus came on a more important work. He also knew that Jesus would increase in honor and influence, for of his government and peace there would be no end, while he himself would be less followed. John knew that Jesus came from heaven as the Son of God, while he was a sinful, mortal man, who could only speak about the more plain subjects of religion. The words of Jesus were the words of God; he had the Spirit, not by measure, as the prophets, but in all fulness. Everlasting life could only be had by faith in Him, and might be thus obtained; whereas all those, who believe not in the Son of God, cannot partake of salvation, but the wrath of God for ever rests upon them.



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Thanks strawberrygirl!
I had not heard of Matthew Henry's commentary.
Nicely worded.
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And thanks for the correction on John 3:30 not 2:30.
I double checked it before I put it down too.
Gonna have to triple check next time. lol
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You're welcome
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Which version do you use?
Christian book distributors has the new versions also.
I would probably like the originals better myself...
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I like the NIV, but any one is good.
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Sorry, I meant the Matthew Henry Commentaries.
There is the old set which is $50 for like 6 books.
And new books of modern day versions.
I think I would like his old stuff better.
I use the Amplified Bible.
Now I am going thru the Young's Literal Translation.
It is the one I use to get the bottom line truth.
I have been thru one paraphrase, The Way.
That is the one I started out with as a teen.
Then the KJV. Love the Psalms in that one.
NIV.
Amplified took a long time (10 years) because I started taking notes and categorizing lessons.
The NIV, I found out has so many missing phrases and passages that I no longer use it.
I was disappointed about that.
;)


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Yeah, average guy on street knows what John the Baptist was thinking.....

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Yet, John sent his men to ask Jesus if He was the Messiah.
Being in prison puts us in a questioning state of mind.
John was obviously taken aback by that turn of events and needed reassurance.
I like how John equates himself to being the groomsman rather than the groom.
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he was very well known,he was saying he was going to be lesser known than Jesus

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I studied the entire book of john. He wanted to say that even though he is well known. Jesus need to be even more 'popular' than him if he was going to fulfill his mission on earth.

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John was saying that his time had come to die, he full filled the assignment that was given to him, he was a prophet, the forerunner, for Jesus of Nazareth; and when his job was done; he knew he was going to die(decrease) an Jesus was about to increase ( start his ministry) that's what the meaning of John 2:30. means.

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Not ignoring you james. Just want to get back here when I have more time.
Bizzy, bizzy lately.
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I had the idea that John was shocked to be in Herod's prison.
That he was under the impression, as the rest of them were, that Jesus was going to come in and take over by force.
Turn things around, etc,...
John sent his men out to question Jesus.
What do you think?
I would like to hear your opinion.
Gotta hit the sack, falling asleep at the machine, lol.
God bless!
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That his job was to get people ready so that they believed in Jesus. So that they had to believe in Jesus, and look up to Jesus, not to him.

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Nice and in a nutshell!
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what do you mean by ''in a nutshell''?
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It is a term we older people use that means you said a lot in a quick, precise way.
It would fit 'in a nutshell'.
It is a compliment.
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oh, okay, thanks
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I mean, glory to God
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Amen! glory to God!
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Its a fancy english way of saying what John probably said more simply - that he needed to become less known to the people and Jesus more well known. John knew he was merely the prologue to the greater story. He knew his purpose was to prepare the way for Jesus not to have his own following and he knew when it was time to step aside and hand things over to Christ.

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Too bad the Jewish leaders of the time did not realize the same.
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Yeah. Well theres a lot the Jewish leaders refuse to acknowlege. Like Jesus as Christ and son of God, and pretty much anything he said or did.
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It is too bad the leaders are like that.
A Messianic Jew is the most turned on person I have ever seen!
It reminds me of the steward of the White City in Tolkeins; Return of the King.
He did not want to step aside to release the reign to the King he had been holding it for.
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I guess the verse is

john 3:30-31

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

you will be able to understand what John the baptist means if you continue to read it till verse 31

let us read,

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

Jesus is above all because he cometh from heaven, though John the baptist is consider as a great propeht/person but under the power of the Lord Jesus he must decrease so that the faith of his disciples (john's disciples) will be switched over to Jesus since Jesus is greater than Him.

John the baptist is showing humbleness in this statement and he wants to tell to people that people must believe in christ than him.

He must decrease for the poeple to see that Jesus is greater than him.

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Yes, it is 3:30. I checked it twice before submitting too!
Have check it three times next time!
We need to do the same also don't we?
Decrease in ourselves and give it over to Jesus, resting in His finished work.
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right!!

let us read,


Matthew 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
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I was thinking about that verse from Jesus' viewpoint yesterday.
We have the attitude that WE are His servants.
But He took the role of servant in washing our feet.
We are heirs with Him, because of His sacrifice.
He is not only my God and Husband, Comforter, Creator,..
He is my big Brother.
It is just too cool!
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