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Will Obamacare be the downfall of the United States of America?

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Likely not, as we survived Social Security and welfare. However, you may have a very difficult time keeping your medical records private, getting the doctor you want, affording your medical care, or getting a full time job.

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Public schools? They have their own insurance.
I'll add one to your list Trader Joes is dropping the mini med plan they had for part time workers and are giving them a flat amount to spend on the exchange. Surprise, surprise, the employees are getting better coverage for less cost
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The season is young; I expect the list to grow longer by January 2014. This isn't what Obama promised when he said I'd we like our insurance we can keep it. But there was a bait and switch on this from the start; nothing we have now looks like what we enacted. And Obamacare will find 75,000 to 111,000 abortions per year, despite language forbidding it, according to the CBO. I don't think it could have passed if the truth about it had been told.
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We will see. The folks at trader joes are quite happy to not keep theirs
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You talked to all of them?
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Trader joes only offered mini meds to part timers. High deductibles and very limited coverage. With the $500 employees will be getting to shop the marketplace, they will be getting better coverage for less.
Like you, I did not talk to all but go by the various reports and interviews...
You still haven't explained to me why schools, which have state employees, are dropping people, etc... Wouldn't have anything to do with budget cuts instead, would it?
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Which school? Biola? It's a private institution. Is there another school on the list that bothers you?
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Middletown public school (not private)
Meridian public schools
Arizona state university
Sam Houston university
Southern Illinois university
Etc, etc. there are a number of them
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It has been voted to defund it now. It would certainly be one big step towards Communism. Obama has taken many steps to marginalize Christianity and this is one thing that does it while forcing everyone to pay for abortions. The activists are working to repeal it yet.

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It has nothing to do with communism or abortions... Good lord, what are you smoking?
As for being the "downfall" of the US, lots of GOP said the same thing about social security and we are fine. With the ACA, we may even end up with a health care ranking almost as good as Columbia.
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Absolutely not. All the fear mongering about Obamacare is nonsense from republicans. And it's pretty pathetic on their part when you consider that the plan is based on a program developed by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Obamacare is far too limited in scope to fix our healthcare problem in the US. But it is a start.

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Stars for facts... finally!!
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Not the downfall of course, but it is going to make things hard on upcoming generations. The younger, healthier people will be paying for older, sicker people to have healthcare. I am not politicizing on this, I am just stating a fact.

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That's pretty much the way health insurance works now, too. In fact all insurance works on the premise that not everyone will need benefits at the same time or to the same extent.
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no Obama himself is the downfall of our country.

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Absolutely not! There are some pretty bright Republicans, but some are just ridiculous. Pros & Cons:

Provides people not to go hungry at night, healthcare for young adults from their parent's insurance until 26 years old, and healthcare for people who can't find jobs to pay for it, but Senator Ted Cruz and House Speaker John Boehner are trying for their 43rd time to oppose this bill and they are acting like the people of this con column. It will not be opposed, because the Senate will never vote for that. While trying to do this, the government is heading towards a shutdown. This will not help growing the economy what so ever. Most Republicans are trusting to this Satanic-looking and low IQ valued man, Ted Cruz, the poster child of the Republican party. I hope this is not continued in the future and this nonsense will stop. The only reason Republicans are opposing this is because all they care about is their party and making sure to not side Barack Obama. They probably opposed Libya, because he sided on it. NOT because of public opinion. Please don't buy the crap they say, because they are only trying to scare you. I am a 13 year-old Democrat.

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Only in Fox News world

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Guaranteed - you'll be one of the first to whine when the reality of it hits you between the eyes.
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I've already said it will cost me more than most and I'm ok with that if it means folks with pre existing conditions get covered, caps go away, the chronically ill can afford insurance
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Oh really jcampbell?
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Not! Obamacare covers those who don't have insurance because they can't afford it. It also covers pre-existing conditions, which weren't covered. So if you had cancer at the time you were getting insurance then you would not be covered and you would surely die. This way at least you stand a chance. I can't understand why Republicans can be so cruel as to want to deny these folks I just mentioned.

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Pull your head out of the sand.
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Stars mex!
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It could be the beginning to the end. If it continues on and does bad. and more people go to part time and lose their jobs. They won't vote on it while the stock market is open watch they will vote late Friday after the markets close or on Saturday. If the markets are open you will see a 100 point fall might even drop 200. points.

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The market does that every time there's a rumor
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You back from your trip. I guess the weather was good.
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Flight down great. Flight back reaffirmed that flying is not my thing. Weather was fabulous and now I am behind on everything!
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That's good glad you had a good time.....Now get out there and get them stalls cleaned. You old tanned liberal. lol
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Lol. Clean them stalls, tote that hay, yell at folks... But I'll be at a goat conference in a couple of weeks... A semi- vacation??
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Do you raise goats. My wife makes goats milk soap.
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No, I truck in a specialty hay from Texas that goat folks LOVE!!
I'm going to the conference as a vendor.
My daughter wants me to get milk from some of my customers so she can make cheese since I told her NO goats here.
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It certainly will give America's downfall a major boost!

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That's a true statement
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Glad Americans like you are still out there.
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