Submit a question to our community and get an answer from real people.
Submit

How much will it cost taxpayers
to fund the congressional approved plan to pay federal workers for lost wages during the shutdown ?

why If so much fiscal conservatism exist in congress are the American taxpayers funding a huge federal employee vacation ?

Report as

Federal employee vacation? Really? If you get laid off and you have no money coming to pay the bills that are due it is not a freeing vacation! As a matter of fact those that had planned to vacation couldn't afford to do so.

Helpful (3) Fun Thanks for voting Comments (7)
Report as
so when companies lay off people they should get back pay ?
I'm not sure how your position answers How much it will cost us to pay those who aren't working
Report as
When a company lays people off they don't usually get hired back, so there is no back pay. I am not sure what it will cost and there is no way to tell until you know when they will be going back to work. I am just offended how you called it a vacation. They may get back pay, but back pay a month from now doesn't help when you have a house payment due today.
Report as
one who has fiscally ran their ship so close to shore as to not have enough security to last a month without pay.. certainly has no real security anyway.. thus their ship has been on a collision course with land long before now
I am truely surprised at how this comparison to civilian vacation time is so offensive...
paid leave without work in my world is indeed a vacation
surely fed employees have had plenty of opportunity to see the unstable handwriting on the wall before now.. and have chosen to stay the course..
No pity from me on compounded bad decesion making
Report as
Because of earlier budget cuts many of them have already had hours cut some one day a week, some one day every other week, depend on how each agency has handled their cuts. That is a 10-20% cut in pay. They are not the ones being fiscally irresponsible, as much as those in Washington are playing Russian roulette with these people's lives.
Report as
I'm not saying your political points aren't valid.. I'm Just saying in the private sector it wouldn't be much anybody would talk about...
But I suppose my question want be answered...
Report as
As I said before until we know how long it is going to go on for you won't have an answer as to how much it is going to cost.
Report as
Yes I sort of knew that from the onset...But there must be some approximated daily cost
Report as
Add a comment...

Wow. It's not a vacation. It's like being laid-off. Why you want to punish federal workers and not senators? That's good job they did on you.

Helpful (1) Fun Thanks for voting Comments (2)
Report as
If the taxpayers fund time paid for while off work.. Its a vacation
who are they?
si its alright for corporations to lay off employees?
You don't look at those employees as being penalized?
Report as
the plan was passed by the house
not the senate... do you frequently comment on things without facts?
Report as
Add a comment...

It won't cost taxpayers anything they weren't already going to pay.

In fact ... it will save taxpayers money ... because no overtime was worked during that time.

Helpful (1) Fun Thanks for voting Comments (2)
Report as
elaborating on that theory..
it wouldn't cost taxpayers any more money We were already paying If we were still paying
$630 for toilet seats
I can't buy into your theory
it doesn't add up
Report as
It's not a theory ... it's basic math.

You hired an employee at a certain salary ... you are still paying that salary.

I bet if you look at their union contracts ... if the "lack of work" is within the employers' control, the employee has to be paid for that "down time". (most union contracts in the private sector I've seen have that language - so I can't imagine the unions "overlooking" that on a government contract)

But as I said ... there's no overtime being worked, so taxpayers are actually saving money.
Report as
Add a comment...

Instead of complaining about those who actually perform work, why not ask how much we'd save if congress was paid their actual worth?

Helpful (2) Fun Thanks for voting Comments (16)
Report as
I believe that money is small change compared to the power and influence the position holds
Report as
you must know that once that was approved there was a collective sigh by fed employees and in the same breath.. a propping up of the feet
Report as
Zorg, I don't know why you think so little of government employees. Most are hard working people and most feel they are serving their country. Most have been worried about the shut down. Not only are they not getting paid for the time being but the work they do is piling up. Just because they are not there doesn't mean the people they help are not still needing help.
Report as
I'm not sure What I've said that has in anyway reflected my disdain for federal employees
all I've stated are facts.. and If you can't Agree there was a collective sigh when it was announced they would receive backpay for the time they are not working.. I would be surprised to say the least
Report as
I Just don't look at fed employees being more entitled than non fed employees
Report as
I'm sure there was a collective sigh of relief for the future but it doesn't pay bills now or put food on the table
Report as
so they have now faced the same instability that private sector persons have faced all along and especially over the past 10-12 years
Report as
Only private sector jobs that had economic issues. And you resent federal employees having a supposedly more secure job?
Report as
I'm not sure where this resentment issue is coming from
I stand by my statement that federal employees should not be given entitlements ...
Report as
any federal employee who truely has any understanding of finances
is either riding the wave or has come to the conclusion there are no private sector options for employment...
Government has become an out of control employer, hiring employees it cannot pay ...
pyramid scheme would be a phrase that comes to mind
Report as
They would be getting money either way and it would be from the government. Since they are laid off they will get unemployment. The difference being that when they do go back to work they will have to pay the unemployment back . In the private sector, no one pays anything back. The government can pay these people as long as it has an approved budget. It is the politicians in Washington that are playing games.

As for hiring people it cannot pay....My husband is a federal employee, (We have savings and are doing fine) in his agency there has been a hiring freeze for years. They had to get special permission to hire a new receptionist when theirs died. His particular office many had been there for long time and have retired. He now works with about half the number of people he used to. His agency has also shut down other offices and increase the area of coverage for others to make up for it. My husbands office now covers 5 states instead of 4. And they are picking up another offices backlog.

As for private sector options...There are plenty. My husband just got an offer last month and we have decided to pass at this time. My husband's office has 3 lawyers, and 4 investigator, a receptionist and 3 office clerks. Plus a supervisor who now has to do the HR position as well. The majority of them can make more money in the private sector. Most government jobs involve helping US citizens, it something you have to have a calling for.
Report as
Zorg, you must have applied for a government job and been turned down to be so misinformed and resentful. Government employees aren't "entitlements"
Report as
Haha ...Ladies I Did my tour for the government...
No Thanks... I help fellow Americans without the trappings of being a government employee
I know fully that more earning potential is in the private sector..
Its a sweet retirement... I Just hope nobody is disappointed when their ship sails due to a lack of funds...
it has not been my mission to offend ..and I'm sure I have and for that I apologize...
I was only illustrating the point that as long as whom ever is getting theirs... government seems a little nicer and kinder
regardless of the underhanded tactics it takes to get there

Report as
ms boo.. again I'm not sure What I've said to get this reaction from you regarding my being misinformed or resentful...
entitlements was a reference to getting laid off and back pay...
If that's not special or entitled you must call it deserving
Report as
They aren't laid off. Some are furloughed, some are working without pay checks
Report as
understand ... those on furlough
can get unemployment
and those who work without a check are making that choice
I'm not sure where the confusion is...
Report as
Add a comment...
Do you have an answer?
Answer this question...
Did you mean?
Login or Join the Community to answer