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ANTI. TRUE: Flue Shots and all other vaccines are horrible for your health. Lately, there's even a bigger scandal with it which may or may not be true but why take the chance?
http://www.bewellbuzz.com/general/10-reasons-flu-shots-dangerous-flu/
http://www.bing.com/search?setmkt=en-US&q=why+flue+shots+are+bad

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This is refreshing to see!!! I agree 100%
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I am pro because it is proven to be helpful in protecting myself and others from influenza virus infections.

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What!!????
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I have not gotten vaccinated for the flu EVER!!! I only got the flu when I was really little. There is little empirical research out to show its effectiveness!!!
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why not
it was made to help not kill
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It was made to help 50 years ago. Now it is made to kill
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So you really think hundreds of thousands of people get the flu shot every year because it kills? Come on, you can't be serious! Why would every branch of the Military make the shot mandatory every year? And people in health care, and people that work in schools, and people that work in restaurants, and banks, and movie theaters, ect. ect. ect......
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You mean it is made to sell?
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I am confused. I am not sure where you are going with that question.
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That's the point, they make you. It's our body not the military,schools,restaurant government ect.. What I meant above "you mean it is made to sell" is that there is an element of marketing invloved. One size does not fit all. I say if it is fine with you then great, but don't force me to do what you do, ever!
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NICE p60462! I agree 100% Take a look at the profits made from the vaccine, and then take a look at how many people still get the flu every year even though so many ARE getting vaccinated. The virus keeps mutating faster than the CDC can keep up with it. It will eventually become a super virus (a REAL killer).
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yes it is almost a super virus now
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Anti. The dead or weakened viruses put up your defences from ONLY the flu. You body will be open to other sicknesses. My friend got a flu shot and he had a terrible case of pneumonia. I say NO.

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You don't know what you are talking about. improving your defense against one disease does not weaken your immune system against other diseases...
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If that were true then what is a booster? Check your immune system health thru diet,eating proper and sleep. Just don't make us do what you do. Options.
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I work in the health care field. The flu shot had nothing to do with pneumonia. It doesn't protect you from other infections, true. But it doesn't make you susceptible to other infections either. Boosters are needed because viruses mutate. The vaccine is useless against the new mutated form, so they have to make a new one. Some immunizations also wear off in time, like tetanus.
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Thanks for your response. It also makes it a good idea for more people to learn about the health of our immune system and how to pro actively keep ready in the event of failure of the shot(s). I have not been sick in probably 25 years.
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While your immune system is busy getting a temporary immunity from the vaccine, it is distracted from other potentially harmful viruses and bacteria out there. The resources get partially used up, and the nasal spray is a LIVE weakened virus. That means that others around the vaccinated person can contract the flu from them. Also, if you (labtechgirl) work in the health field, you have been falsely indoctrinated about this stuff. I know my biology, and vaccines are nice in theory, but NOT in reality.
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I was told that the flu vaccine they use is always out dated so they are just putting old ones in to your system from year before...It changes that quickly! Not to mention, its a bit tough to trust government advice when the pharmacy companies are making bank and don't really care about what else is going into our body. There are many reasons why I wont get it....
For all we know, we are just the guinea pigs, especially these days with people thinking the population is getting to big. and them trying to be God to reduce

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You need to rethink your conspiracy theory! PLEASE...
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They update the shot every year and old vaccines are destroyed. Nobody is trying to kill us. I would belive that the government is trying to kill us off if they WITHHELD the flu shot from us. We already know how many people die from the flu each year. Multiply that number by 100 and then rethink your decision not to get the shot! PLEASE....
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USArmyVet hit it. They try to predict which flu virus is going to hit this year and create a vaccine for it. Whoever told you, told you wrong.
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Last year here where we live there was a huge shortage of shots, and on top of that the strain was wrong. The numbers of death never escalated. Again guys, don't make me do it if i don't want it.
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Be aware everyone that when the virus mutates it slowly becomes more of a super-virus. So, should we fight off a smaller one now, or... wait for a supervirus that cannot be stopped by a vaccine. Your choice.
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It is definitely a MUST every year for me and is required by a lot of companies to reduce the number of employees getting the flu and passing it along. Even with all the warnings out there about using good hygiene, belive it or not, there are still 46% of people that dont even wash their hands after the use the bathroom!! GROSS!! So yes, I am PRO especially if you are in the health care industry. But I get it to help protect myself, my elderly Father, my 7-month-old Grandson, and my 17-year-old Son who has an immune deficiency disorder. Get it now.

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If your son has an immune deficiency, how does injecting live viruses into his blood stream protect him?
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1st, I get my shot, which keeps me from getting it and passing it to him and others. 2nd, where I live, they do not administer live viruses. You should ask your health care provider about it. Most places have discontinued the live forms. If you really won't get the shot, at least boost your immunity with vitamins like C, B-complex, and Zinc. And don't go out of your house when you are sick because you will infect 7-10 people or more just at the grocery store.
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Of course I am not a doctor but the shot does by pass some direct immune systems in your body like the mouth, nose, ears ect.. The body can be built up to fight many things on it's own like diet, sleep and little or no large amounts of sugar. Besides they always get the stains wrong.
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Please research it and check the facts.
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To Denisea, Viruses aren't alive. On the other hand, the injection is a deactivated viral strain.
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Anti. Too many strains the flu shot cannot affect.

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I have never had a flu shot, nor will I ever have one. I do not get sick very often. Maybe a head cold once every 3 years. I do not want to mess up my immune system by getting a flu shot.

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Anti. They don't help you at all. It might seem like they do, but the doctors or physicians that put the vaccine into you, are only putting old ones in that are not effective at all. Plus, the shot might even be more harmful than good. You're wasting money buy getting a flu shot. I'm not going to get a flu shot this year. I'd rather eat healthy and protect my immune system than get a flu shot, which will end up messing everything up.

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Most places give free flu shots so you don't need to be wasting your money and actually many clinics or hospitals will give out free flu shots.
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You have to pay for flu shots in many places around my area.
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Well then maybe it's just Arizona then but almost anywhere I go I can find somewhere that gives out free flu shots.
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Yep, it must be just Arizona. You're lucky.
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No it is big business here, not free $$.
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I have had the flu shot every year in my life. Of course, there are symptoms following getting the shot but it is most definitely worth it. Most jobs and communities require that you get the flu shot. Why not protect your heath?

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I have never had one and rarely get sick. I have educated myself on immune system health. Don't want the at poison in my blood stream. I am not preaching to you but having the shot, if the strain is correct, is not a guarantee. I never have liked the one size fits all plan anyway.
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I soooo totally agree with you. 9 out of 10 people have no side effects at all. The reason we get a flu shot every year is because they update it. All the old vaccines from last year were destroyed last year. Thanks for getting your shot and protecting yourself and the rest of us.
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We are protecting you also by keeping our immune system up. I have not had the flu since I was a child. We are consistent about the health of our immune system and it is natural. I don't like any one making me or an institution forcing me to do some thing to my body.

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I am against it. So far everyone I know who has had a flu shot has gotten the flu, or a really bad case of something. I have not gotten the flu shot and I am perfectly fine thank you very much.

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Against for us. We have learned how to keep our immune system healthy. That would be the best thing to do. We also do not believe in that one size fits all shot, there are some dangerous side effects. A lot of doctors may push these things because there may something in it for them. Look up how to keep you immune system up by diet and sleep.

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Pro: I've gotten the flu shot every year but one and I have never gotten the flu but once. The one time I got the flu was on the same year that I didn't get the flu shot that I was supposed to get. Some people are different though and actually get sick because of the flu shot.

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Anti !!!!! This is one more way for the government
to reduce population.

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No...just no
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Conspiracy theory much? All the times I've got a flu shot, I didn't get the flu.
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Pro: The side effects you could get from the shot may be nothing compared to if you actually got the flu

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thats helpful are you a boy
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Anti: Never got one in 10 years. No flu in 10 years. Every year my elderly father got the shot, every year he got the flu. Maybe you would need 10 shots to hit all the strains. A healthy immune system is your best defense. But if you have a weakened immune system, perhaps some benefit.

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The older you are, the less effective the shot will be... bu the more you need it. Hopefully by the time you're too old, most people will be getting shots.
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Anti: I get the flu every few years. I have heard and read about flu shot ingredients which turned me off. Do you know flu shots include mercury? A nurse friend got the flu shot, and having never had the flu in her life, she immediately came down with it. She no longer gets the shot and neither do medical staff where she works. They deal with and see the havoc it causes. I have tried many remedies for the flu. The best is to have a strong immune system. Sugar inhibits your immune system functioning and dairy causes phlegm. Avoid these if you can. Washing hands and avoiding handrails in public areas is important. If you get the flu, a homeopathic medicine " Oscillococcinum" cut my sick time to just 3 days. This with chicken soup, fruits, tea and getting rest is key too. If you decide to get the flu shot, remember, viruses are constantly mutating. Therefore, that next generation of mutated flu virus is more than likely already in circulation! Best to take care of yourself by beefing up your immune system!

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I agree with you. I have never had a flu shot to the best of my recollection. I only get sick maybe once every 4 or 5 years if you even want to call it that. The worst was in 2003. I feel if you continuously keep putting things in your body it does not really need you will wear down the effect it or something else may have when actually needed. The same principal of if it's not broke don't fix it in other words.
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You can request a single shot vial of Flu Vaccine and that will NOT have mercury.
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That's interesting.. There is also a nasal mist, but that contains weakened live virus and is not for everybody.
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I think you are confused. You response seems to be based largely on myth. But perhaps I can shed some light on this situation for you. The injection does not contain live viruses, it contains only viral proteins which can't make you sick. It is true that the multi dose vials do contain the harmless form ethyl mercury, which is not to be confused with the harmful form of methyl mercury. This is sort of like saying since carbon monoxide is a poison anything that contains either carbon or oxygen must also be harmful and should be avoided. As a nurse, we have a responsibility to the public and a moral obligation to do no harm. By not getting vaccinated we put the public that we serve at risk. We have the option to refuse, and some opt out. But those who refuse the vaccine are required to wear a mask when in contact with patients to avoid the possible risks of exposing patients to the virus. I have never seen nor have I read any actual information that indicates any havoc that the vaccine causes. Can you be specific? What sort of havoc do you claim they deal with and see that it causes? I will agree that a strong immune system is important. The vaccine makes your immune system stronger, that's the whole point of it in the first place. I will agree that too much sugar can cause be unhealthy, but will also point out that the body requires sugar to live. Dairy phlegm impact on the immune system is a myth. Dairy products do not increase mucous production, they can soothe a sore throat, and the increased calories helps the body increased energy needs as it fights the infection. Doctors recommend that people who are sick should in fact consume at least one serving of dairy per day. Hand washing is important, no arguments there. Oscillococcinum is a popular placebo. It's not harmful, but it is a placebo. Yes Chicken soup works. Especially if the it is real chicken soup made with real chicken fat. The rendered chicken fat has been found to have antimicrobial qualities.
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I think you are confused. You response seems to be based largely on myth. But perhaps I can shed some light on this situation for you. The injection does not contain live viruses, it contains only viral proteins which can't make you sick. It is true that the multi dose vials do contain the harmless form ethyl mercury, which is not to be confused with the harmful form of methyl mercury. This is sort of like saying since carbon monoxide is a poison anything that contains either carbon or oxygen must also be harmful and should be avoided. As a nurse, we have a responsibility to the public and a moral obligation to do no harm. By not getting vaccinated we put the public that we serve at risk. We have the option to refuse, and some opt out. But those who refuse the vaccine are required to wear a mask when in contact with patients to avoid the possible risks of exposing patients to the virus. I have never seen nor have I read any actual information that indicates any havoc that the vaccine causes. Can you be specific? What sort of havoc do you claim they deal with and see that it causes? I will agree that a strong immune system is important. The vaccine makes your immune system stronger, that's the whole point of it in the first place. I will agree that too much sugar can cause be unhealthy, but will also point out that the body requires sugar to live. Dairy phlegm impact on the immune system is a myth. Dairy products do not increase mucous production, they can soothe a sore throat, and the increased calories helps the body increased energy needs as it fights the infection. Doctors recommend that people who are sick should in fact consume at least one serving of dairy per day. Hand washing is important, no arguments there. Oscillococcinum is a popular placebo. It's not harmful, but it is a placebo. Yes Chicken soup works. Especially if the it is real chicken soup made with real chicken fat. The rendered chicken fat has been found to have antimicrobial qualities.
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oops didn't mean to send that twice. can someone report one of these maybe a mod will be good enough to remove just one.
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I will agree the old plenty of fluids; plenty of rest is important too but avoid excessive caffeine as it can cause dehydration. It is because the virus is constantly mutating is the reason why we get a new flu shot every year. Does one vaccination promise to cure every virus forever? Of course not; but it is effective and safe. You don’t have to get it if you don’t want to. But you are better off making your decision based on the actual facts. As opposed to making it based on a combination of myths, superstitious beliefs, and a few facts mingled here and there.
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lol second one reported.. hope someone doesn't report the first one too...
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Lady roe: We never get those shots and some of your advise is spot on 90%. We have aggressively educated our selves' about immune system health. shots directly by pass part of your natural immune system. I have not had the flu since I was a child. I don't want the pro shot people ever making me do something to my body thru mandatory socialized medicine or any other type of social pressure.
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My husband and I have been getting a yearly flu shot for 20 years straight. We have NOT had the flu nor any adverse health effects. We are extremely healthy and I am very much pro ALL vaccines. They do not hurt you....they keep people healthy.

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The Flu kills between 3,000 and 49,000 people a year (estimate by CDC). Since I work with Children, I am unwilling to kill them, nor am I willing to have them kill me.

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Yes, they are very cute, but totally ruthless!
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I think bacteria are cuter than viruses.
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dejapooh:That number is adults and children combined.
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Pro. All the times I've got a flu shot, I haven't gotten sick. I like all vaccines. I just recently got the male HPV vaccine.

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I'd like to echo what Aragene said. The best defense is a healthy immune system. To do that, exercise and plenty of fruits and vegetable. If you take decent care of yourself then even if you do get the flu, recovering from it is a lot easier. I've had the flu or flu-like symptoms (can't eat and/or exceptionally tired) 3 times in the last 10 or so years and I usually just buy a container of orange juice and munch on some plain crackers for a day or two.

The biggest thing to remember is that the flu is a virus which means it mutates constantly. Every flu vaccine you get, every year, is worthless the following year. I do believe there's been enough reported cases of people getting the flu FROM the vaccine to warrant concern. But I also wouldn't be surprised if the flu can mutate within a single season (which would account for the occasional person getting the flu even after the vaccine). The best, most immediate, way to counter that is your own immune system being in good shape.

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I've never bothered. I've only had the flu twice in my life so I'm not that worried about it.

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Yes... I don't want the flu, and I'm around vulnerable people. I have not gotten the flu since I started getting the shots.

However it is inevitable that someday the vaccine will not contain the right strain, and I will not be protected.

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Pro.

It sucks, but if you're going to keep healthy for flu season, why not?

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and thats more funny and helpful at the same time
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pro. by not getting the shot you put others at risk. think of how many sick kids there would be if they didnt get shots!!!

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thats so helpful of you
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I have not had influenza since I was 5! I also have NEVER had the flu shot, but I have been around others who contracted the flu. The whole thing is a scam and is stupid. Think about how much brain damage IS OCCURING because of the NEUROTOXIN THYMERISOL in the flu shot. Also, there is a tiny bit of antifreeze and aluminum in every shot. Kids will get sick no matter what, but brain damage is NOT alright.
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ahaha I could write an essay answering this....its now a controversial issue.

You actually want to learn more with an open mind read this link!! It opened my eyes...

http://rawforbeauty.com/blog/the11-reasons-why-flu-shots-are-more-dangerous-than-the-flu-itself.html

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thank you. read it. some interesting comments at the end of it. looking forward to reading more when I have time...
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anti just keep your self safe

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it matters, if you are in the at risk group yes, if not more than likely you are going to be fine. research people who die from the flu

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trust your Doctor

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Not me! They almost killed me a couple times by misdiagnosing, and wrong meds.
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Anti. :)
For the same reasons everyone else answers.

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Who wants to stick a NEUROTOXIN into their bloodstream year after year! GLHF! LOL

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