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So my dad and I were talking about evolution, and he said the reason he doesn't believe in it to a degree is because why aren't we still...

strong like monkeys. I explained to him to the best of my knowledge saying that evolution gives you what you need to be best suited to how your going to have to live to survive. that being said, we don't need that strength anymore. he said to this that the cave men did but I don't think that's a legitimate rebuttal. I said that even so, there was a huge span of time after that where we had time to lose that strength if we didn't need it. we now have shelter like houses, so we don't need to be so robust. we don't climb trees and stuff like monkeys do, we don't fight everyday or try to maintain dominance through violence(the general public) and we don't need strength physically when we have guns, and lots of other weapons. does anybody have anything to add that I can tell him?

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First of all, we didn't evolve from monkeys. That's a lie that creationists keep telling to try to get people to doubt the truth of evolution. However, with regard to strength, it's like everything else that is different between us and our ape ancestors: we've changed over time. Our teeth are different, our brains are different, our feet are different, we are not covered with hair, etc. etc. Why should we keep a trait that he picked out? Why not say "why don't we walk on our knuckles like apes"? Or "why aren't we covered with hairless"? His argument just makes no sense.

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First of all creationists usually don't believe in evolution, two I never said we came from monkeys, they are our ancestors and we evolved in a different direction and monkeys went the other direction. I just so happened to know what my dad meant and I'm sure most of the others did too. Lol
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My dad understands evolution to a degree, he just gets bored of talking and simplifies it. I understand what you're saying though sir. Thanks for the input.
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And I retread what I said that sounded kind of rude :/ sorry
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I meant only to say that I'd never said that so he didn't get the evolved from monkeys idea from me, he just simplified it. But I agree with you
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Well before during the age of the "caveman" they were all extremely strong. Most of it was because of their diet and their ways of life. All they ate was red meat. If you go to primitive tribes in Africa a lot of the "Alpha" males are strong. We aren't strong because our lives don't depend on it anymore.

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Most primitive cultures eat very little meat because its so hard to get. People's' diets did not contain much meat until we started keeping livestock. Cavemen mostly ate vegetation and insects with very little red meat.
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I doubt that, because they were hunters, hence their strength.
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It's a well established anthropological fact that pre-civilized people were hunter-gatherers and got the bulk of their diet from fruits, nuts, roots, grubs, etc and very little from meat. You are influenced by popular culture, which emphasizes hunting, which was a very small part of the actual diet. Do you have any idea how hard it was to kill a mastodon with a spear??
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You've made a pretty good case. :) Some people are just stubborn. It's all right to just agree to disagree. Call it a draw, smile and find something else interesting to talk about for a while. :)

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I don't believe in Darwin's "evolution" idea. Because it is flawed in so many ways, and in many countries in Europe, they stopped teaching it. Non the less, about two years ago, they did an experiment on humans, and the conclusions was, we carries one small piece of the same DNA. Which may refer to our creator God (Eve & Adam). Honestly, I really don't know. No one knows. Your dad may be right or you may be right. But they always say, parents do know best ;)

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I'm not gonna lie, we disagree but I love your comment :3
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Haha thanks ^.^. I'll be honest. I LOVE TO ARGUE (even when I'm wrong). Especially with my dad, because we are exactly the same. Everybody has their own opinions about things!
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I'm the same as you I debate with friends for fun :3
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I debate with everybody, especially because I love to be right (but I don't debate with my grandma) She's a feisty russian lady!
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I debate for different viewpoints to be put out there. I may agree, I may not, I may mix your ideas with mine, I never know. And I hate ignorant people too the biggest degree, and love shutting them down so they leave their ignorance elsewhere and just not near me. I like learning too
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You are repeating some of the many lies that creationists tell each other. They did not stop teaching evolution in Europe and there is mountains of valid scientific data that strongly support the scientific theory (not hypothesis) of evolution. But people will believe what they want, no matter what the truth is.
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They did stop teaching it, because I am European so I would know. I don't believe in one more than another, but like a human being, I have my doubts. It is flawed, and it was proven. You have many things that is supported by science, but does that make it true? Not always.
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Why don't you point out the many ways evolution is flawed.
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Evolution doesn't "give you what you need" to survive. It doesn't do anything for the individual. It's just the principle that life strategies that work will continue to exist. As humans we use our brains to manipulate the environment, so we don't need to develop our strength anymore. We also evolved to be extremely social, to live a long time (compared with other animals) and to have few high-quality offspring whom we invest in a lot. Put all these things together and the strategy works well enough that our species continues to exist. That's all. Other species of human-like creatures are extinct now, so a similar package didn't work well enough for them.

Evolved doesn't mean better. Cockroaches are still around and they eat each other for goodness sake. No problem. They can just lay 1000 more eggs and wait around for their comrades/snacks to grow up. It works well enough that they still exist.

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You explained what I meant better. I didn't mean for the individual either. Thank you for pointing out my poor explaining skills though. And for expounding upon my wording.
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Hey you're doing pretty well. This is a subject that trips up nearly everybody. It's really counter-intuitive. :)
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Thank you :') I'm trying to learn as much as I can. My parents are those people who refuse to learn lessons from children and will disagree with me simply because I'm their child, so instead I teach them history that involves science, and a bunch of other stuff. Can't deny most of it :D
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Heh. I know about those kind of parents. LOL!
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XD Its aggravating to say the least
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Monkeys are distant cousins in the evolution scheme. Other than that, you're a pretty smart kid to be more right than your dad.

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Thank you :) VERY sadly, he's very contrary purposefully and he doesn't like these conversations. When I told him all of what I said above, he said he didn't want to talk anymore.
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He probably wasn't that confident in his answer and didn't want a daughter to be one up on him!
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XD Yeah he's had that happen to him a lot
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Come on how stupid is that lie someone told u Adam was the first man and he was created buy the dust of the earth. When they say ashes to ashes dust to dust is because our body will turn to ashes and dust eventually. They have some caricatures as us humans but by all means we never came for them. God created us and we didn't come form a cell we came form dust.

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I agree with the first part since dead skin is dust, or rather, dust is dead skin, but how do you know? You cannot use the Bible as proof because you have yet to prove the Bible is true
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And no none said we came from monkeys(my dads wording Is his version of simplifying since he knows I know what he means. Monkeys are an ancestor that branches off in a different direction than us. Really dude? A talking snake? A tree created just to exist and be resisted? Perfect God created imperfect beings? Seriously? It's ridiculous. WAY more ridiculous than theories with evidence
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