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Alaskaman: 1 year ago

At what point in time did the American public begin paying for others failures/mistakes?

I know people need to rant every now and then so here you go. I'm just tired of people asking questions on how they can better leech off the economic system in the US. Such as, "How much should I work to get maximum E.I.C" (I am a tax preparer so I hear that all the time) or " How do I get on disability" though the latter can be a legitimate question I've only seen/heard it from people trying to cheat the system.

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Melloblue: 1 year ago

Obviously, this is a rhetorical question for which there is no other than an opinion answer. You have expressed yours . . . . . if you want to vent further, use the comment section below. Sorry you have such a low view of the "American Public".

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klovejazz: 1 year ago

Wow.

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ClaraListensprechen: 1 year ago

Agreed. The practice of "gaming the system" began with the American industrialists and financial institutions dating back to the days of a federal banking system (Hamilton).

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jsun73: 1 year ago

Well my friend , we can start with the great depression of the 1930's when the first form of federal social welfare was focused on assistance to the elderly and the disabled to get through the very dire economic times.. (imo should have remained that way)

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Melloblue: 1 year ago

Yes, jsun73, actually aid to the needy started far earlier in our history. The question, I believe, was not about assistance to those in need, but to those who would cheat or otherwise abuse the system. Two separate issues . . . don't you think?

In 1935, in the middle of the Great Depression, it was felt that the moral think to do was create a safety net for the elderly. As Americans, we choose not to ignore those truly in need.

The question addresses those who would "cheat the system" . . . I have no use for those people either . . . . .

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jsun73: 1 year ago

I expanded my comments below with an answer of my own. thank you for your reply Mello : )

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ClaraListensprechen: 1 year ago

Sorry, guys, but welfare began with corporate welfare for the industrialists and bankers.

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ClaraListensprechen: 1 year ago

The Great Depression saw corporate welfare in the form of mandated German restitution at the conclusion of World War I, as it happens, which is why people went gung-ho investing in stocks. When the corporations failed to loot Germany because Germany was already broke, the whole house of cards collapsed on Wall Street.

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jsun73: 1 year ago

the question was in reference to "the american public" and it would help if you could support your answer with at least a bread crumb reference people could use to research your statement.. you know just to ensure it's not a baseless opinion

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jsun73: 1 year ago

now that is a good comment : )

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ClaraListensprechen: 1 year ago

As a rule I don't rely on the Internet for my information sources because there's so much garbage out there, even on Wikipedia. I have my own library of actual real books and I use a lot more than just one book in my research.

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ClaraListensprechen: 1 year ago

The amount of garbage provided by the Internet is one of the major reasons why teachers discourage its use. It's a tool, but it's not authoritative. Wiki especially.

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jsun73: 1 year ago

No disagreement.. I, like others just like to know where to go looking when trying to educate ourselves. You’re propagating the thing you seem to dislike by not providing some point of reference even if it’s just a small one. If you are on here to help others learn, you have to point them in the right direction. That was all I was trying to say, no offense intended Clara

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ClaraListensprechen: 1 year ago

None taken. Good books for research can be found in a physical library and the librarian is always a good person to ask for assistance on that. Where you'd want to start looking is periodicals printed in that era, for several months at least. They report historical events as current events.

There are also related books printed in that era, and no two libraries would have the same material. Some libraries do participate in a loan network, though, and via your own local library you can borrow from other libraries on that loaning network. The Great Depression took years to develop, so be sure to read materials current to its run-up for your information.

My personal library contains many books circa that area and are currently out of print, so the one online source that I CAN recommend is the Google Gutenberg Project, even though they have a long, long way to go to put a sizeable corpus of out-of-print books online, and so it's limited.

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jsun73: 1 year ago

ty I'll check that out .. Gutenberg Project

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TheJerry1559: 1 year ago

If, I "feel" your question right, and I hope I did, you are wondering when did this "leaching" off of society started.? The economy has been in a downturn for a long time. I think about the time it started was in , or around, 1995,. And I think it started its peak in 2006,m which pretty much stays consistent, to today

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jsun73: 1 year ago | Last edited at 10:21AM on 2/10/2012

start with the great depression of the 1930's when the first form of federal social welfare was focused on assistance to the elderly and the disabled to get through the very dire economic times. more below

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jsun73: 1 year ago

Fast forward to the 1960's when the president Lyndon Johnson led fellow democrats in the Great Society Reform legislation which allowed certain indigent members of society to benefit from social welfare as well.. Problem is good intentioned legislation can be and often is targeted by people who would rather sit than work. This also paved the foundation for a subsection of society who was allowed to believe these are entitlements people cannot be denied. Generations later the self entitlement mentality has grown like a cancer. Fast forward to our current and most socialistic president and his expansion of social welfare and presto... this of course is just the opinion of a poor person who has a strong work ethic and refuses to belittle himself with a handout, choosing instead to work for next to nothing and be proud of what little he does have. Who has served his country in combat in a war he did not believe in but does not feel like he's owed anything because he served in a volunteer military. And also by the way can't stand the way the rich prey on the poor even after they were bailed out by the government who's job it seems is to bail out everyone but middle class america. I feel your pain brother...

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lucydesilover1: 1 year ago

It's this pseudosocialist mindset Americans have. Everyone believes they are entitled to live a good life, but some people don't want to have to work for it. Too many people were told they were "special" just for being alive. and Its sickening

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